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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 03-19-2007 07:11 PM
Above is a presentation cup by either John or Samuel Warrington of Philadelphia, PA. The engraving, "Presented to S. Major by T & E. Bentley" together with the word "Sombretillio" has always intrigued me. Does anyone know what Sombretillio means? The milled band forms a base pedestal and may be of interest to the glossary of milled bands. IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 03-20-2007 11:26 AM
This band has been added to the milled band thread (Glossary of Milled Bands) as "scalloped." IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 03-20-2007 11:44 AM
The historical pattern name is "leaf and dart," which might be a better choice. IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 03-20-2007 04:58 PM
Leaf and dart alternates leaves and darts; this pattern seems to have leaves overlapping leaves, and so might not strictly meet the definition of alternating forms. IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 03-26-2007 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Paul Lemieux: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Arches 1" is a blossom motif. "Leaf and Vine" 1 & 2 seem to be laurel leaves. For "Flowers, cables, & beads", I would use "rosettes" instead of "flowers". For "Braided", I would use "interlace" or "interlacement". The "Palmette" pattern you illustrate is a kind of modification of the Greek original. A true Greek palmette's leaves spring from a central, rounded leaf, which is typically flanked on either side by a scroll shape. In most cases where the palmette appears as a repeating banded design, these scrolls connect to the scrolls of adjoining palmettes. The palmettes shown here are just the top 2/3 or so of a complete classical palmette. Except for the interlace and rosette patterns, all of those that I mentioned are common Neoclassical designs, derived from banded decoration typically found on Greek friezes and vessels, such as vases. Though interlace patterns also appear in Greek decoration, the particular example you picture seems to tend more toward a Medieval Celtic origin. The rosette, cable, & bead design is sort of a mishmash in my eye. The idea of rosettes alternating with pairs of beads does occur in classical decoration, but the present rosettes are less austere and symmetrical, and perhaps have more of a Renaissance feeling. The cables are just sort of there, and I think this is among my least favorite of all the decorative bands you have shown Also having a Renaissance vibe are the strung discs bordering the basket-weave design. [This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 03-26-2007).] IP: Logged |
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 03-26-2007 07:39 PM
Thanks for the comments and suggestions, Paul - your opinions are valuable and they will be considered. As stated in the introduction, all names in quotes are provisional, but in fact all the names are tentative - we are looking for cited examples as authorities; for example: "Shell 1" is illustrated as an example of a shell in an online architectural dictionary - when you click on "shell" in the list of terms, this is what you get.; it refers to a specific type of shell known as a coquille. Palmette is as close as I could get to an illustrated example. It originally reminded me of the shell derived designs on the back of some spoons, but I had used "spray" because there were other, more typical shells. I agree that the "braided" design conveys a Celtic impression - I had originally toyed with a Viking related name, but since most of these designs are classical Greco-Roman in origin, I chose a purely descriptive name pending an applicable example from a citable source. Poke around in the architectural dictionary or another such source, and if other such examples can be found, please post them, but not in the Glossary itself. Until then, short of actual errors, one name may be as good as another. IP: Logged |
Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 03-26-2007 10:16 PM
I just poked around in my copy of Meyer's Handbook of Ornament. There are a couple examples of shell-like designs similar to yours (shell 1) that are identified as leaves. One the other hand, there are also similar examples described as shells. This is why I didn't make a definite pronouncement about that particular band. I suppose when something is that stylized, its real identity would be determined through its context in an overall decorative scheme. In the case of the silver piece with Shell 1, there is no decorative scheme beyond the motif itself, so it is open to interpretation. IP: Logged |
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