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bascall

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iconnumber posted 04-01-2007 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a pair of what I believe are American made georgian three and one-eighth inches long salt spoons. They have the fullest shell style bowl that I have ever come across. The images, particularly of the maker's marks, are abysmal primarily because there just isn't much left of the marks and of course partly because of my photography. The exact origination of these spoons is unknown, but they did come from estate sale in Norfolk, Virginia.


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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Difficult to tell from the photos, but I believe your spoons are English. The upper photo looks like a partial lion passant (only the head and perhaps the tail showing). The other mark appears to be the maker's (or sponsor's) mark, with the first letter an S. These two marks are typically found on English spoons of this size and period. American spoons of this type are not nearly as readily found. Still, they are nice to have.

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for posting a reply. Sorry, I should have said it to begin with but there is only one mark on each spoon. The top mark seems to have the most visible. The bottom showed up more in the blown up image than I could see with a loupe. The most visilbe mark of the two seems to have a large dot and a partial stroke of a letter, maybe a "C." The dot did make me wonder whether it was the end of the a lion's tail. I'll shoot the mark again and post it. Ever seen a shell type salt spoon that had the "hinge" portion of the shell like these?

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is another less than perfect shot of the two marks:

While shooting these images in a little better light than the first time they were shot, I noticed that these spoons are etched with identification numbers, possibly accession numbers. They both have same identification number which consists of a single letter and four numbers. I'm going to check with the Chrysler Museum here in Norfolk, Virginia and see if this ID fits their accession numbers. If that is the case, hopefully these two spoons have been de-accessioned.

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure exactly what it is about the base of the shells that puzzles you. The shell bowls could have been hammered into a swage - the same swage that would be used to make the shell grips on sugar tongs. If there does not seem to be a smooth or seamless transition between the stem and bowl, that may be the reason.

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iconnumber posted 04-02-2007 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by swarter:
I'm not sure exactly what it is about the base of the shells that puzzles you. The shell bowls could have been hammered into a swage - the same swage that would be used to make the shell grips on sugar tongs. If there does not seem to be a smooth or seamless transition between the stem and bowl, that may be the reason.

They are entirely seamless. Sorry I'm not making myself clear enough. Maybe these facsimiles of shells will help. The one on the left is more like what I'm accustomed to seeing for the shell bowl of a salt spoon and the one on the right is more like these spoons.

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I think they're pretty because the bowls look like real shells. My shell sugar spoons do not have real shell shapes, just the scallops.

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iconnumber posted 04-03-2007 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a variant that is not terribly uncommon. I think I have one or two American, and certainly have British examples - the latter are more common, I think. It may be the vagaries of memory, but it seems to me this bowl shape is more common on salt spoons than on other forms. And most often found with this handle shape rather than fiddles, etc.

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