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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 04-03-2007 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Below is a classic style coffee pot by Thomas Wriggins of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from around 1840. The upper and middle bands are identical and both form an overhang in a manner similar to the bands on this unmarked teapot].

The lower band is different in design and in placement as it is applied in the standard manner or at least what seems to be more common to me.



Below is the top band.



Below is the middle band.



Below is the bottom band.



These bands may be suitable for the glossary. While this form did not start with Mr. Wriggins, his version is very attractive.

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iconnumber posted 04-04-2007 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is certainly an elegant pot - although of earlier form, the decoration tells you immediately that it is not from he 1770's, when the double bellied or inverted pear shape was most popular.

I suppose the upper and middle bands are another form of the popular grape theme, although the leaves aren not typical of grapes. If it were not for the fact that there are some tendrils shown, which indicates a vine, I would have been tempted to think it represented blackberries, which have trefoil leaves like this. Artistic licence again. The bottom band I imagine represents acanthus leaves, another popular theme.

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iconnumber posted 04-05-2007 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swarter, thanks for the observations. I imagine that the artists that designed these bands were from larger cities and had access to books with botanical prints to provide correct information. They probably did add or subtract features that they thought would improve the final image. Adding some tendrils may be one example. A little like flower arranging to get better composition.

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iconnumber posted 04-05-2007 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The bottom band actually appears to be rather complex, with two alternating compound elements. The first, in the center of the photo, is an urn or vase between two upright acanthus leaves; the second is a shell-like motif between two splayed acanthus leaves. My vote for name: acanthus, urn and shell.

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iconnumber posted 04-05-2007 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


A better image of the Wriggins acanthus, urn and shell is shown above.

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iconnumber posted 04-06-2007 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Much better - thanks. With the larger and clearer photo, I think the earlier impressions on urn and shell might bear reinterpretation. These strike me as more floristic - the "urn" more like a stylized flower, perhaps not unlike a fleur-de-lis, and the "shell" more lika a leaf, something like a Begonia or African Violet, although the central whorl doesn't exactly fit anything I know. Unless someone knows of a labelled image of either of these, or can identify the leaf, it might be best to ignore them and just emphasize the major classical theme of acanthus leaves.

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iconnumber posted 04-06-2007 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the edited version of the middle band posted in the milled band glossary thread it can be seen that the leaves are not trefoils as interpreted above, but are single leaves, deeply cleft; while not typical of grape leaves, they either could be inaccurate representations, or a varietal variation, and so will be considered a grapevine until demonstrated otherwise.

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iconnumber posted 04-06-2007 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swarter, thanks for the advice on taking pictures. The depth of field was much better when not using the macro setting. My camera has a second close-up setting for not so close up shots so the depth of field in bigger and as a second bonus the automatic focus and zoom both work in that mode.

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