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ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 11-13-2008 11:35 PM I have always liked presentation cups and find the smaller version of the American cups particularly attractive. From left to right in the front row of the photo below are by cups by Tifft and Whiting of North Attleboro, Massachusetts, James Merriman of Memphis, Tennessee, and Francis A. Beauvais of St. Louis, Missouri. These cups are respectively 2 ½”, 2 ¼” and 2 ½” in height. In contrast the cup in the back row by William Forbes for Ball, Black and Company is 4 ¼” tall. The Tifft and Whiting cup has the most interesting engraving – “FROM a sincere Friend to Ida Vinecove March 15th 1859”. Most of the presentation cups I have seen had either the name of the presenter or were silent on the name of the presenter. Also the use of the word “friend” may be appropriate when given to an adult, but seems out of place to a gift to a small child; but such a small cup seems appropriate only for a child. Of course, it could be that the presenter was not a relative to the child and simply wanted to remain anonymous. The Forbes cup is simply engraved “Emma” and the small Beauvais cup never had an engraving. Whether or not these cups were engraved or whether they are large or small, they all represent a happy and joyful time in the life of the owner and the presenter. I wonder how many gifts given to children today will still be around hundreds of years later. IP: Logged
rian Posts: 169 Registered: Jan 2006	posted 11-14-2008 06:27 AM Lovely little cups When we were young married people BC (before children) we had friends who had their first daughter's name already picked out. The name was on a beautiful silver cup that had been passed down in the wife's family from Caroline to Caroline for generations so there had to be a Caroline...and there was. IP: Logged
bascall Posts: 1629 Registered: Nov 99	posted 11-14-2008 08:56 AM Remarkably, there are no Vinecoves in the census's in the nineteenth century in the United States that the indexers have made obvious. Spelling sometimes makes lookups difficult, but if there were any at all they must have been few in numbers. However, there were some Vinecoves in Halifax, Nova Scotia that appear to have visited the United States sometime in the nineteenth century. The diminutve size of the cup may have had something to do with it being for a young lady? IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 11-14-2008 04:11 PM I also believe that Ida was young girl. I have seen the phrase "Sincere friend" used in an inscription, but it was always on an object clearly given to an adult. The donor may have traveled or lived in a town that Tifft and Whiting sold their goods and it could be that this Ida did live in Nova Scotia. That of course just adds to the mystery of the cup. Vinecove itself is an attractive name conjuring up an image of a vineyard deep in some inlet. Removing the inscription from silver removes all the fun of thinking about the past owners. IP: Logged

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