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Tad Hale Posts: 120 |
posted 12-27-2008 06:51 PM
  
David Kinsey is listed in Beckman’s Cincinnati Silversmith’s book as going to California during the Gold Rush. What is not mentioned is that he was a member of the “Cincinnati Mining & Trading Company”. This was a group of approximately 50 men, who formed this company and David Kinsey was the Treasurer. They left about the middle of March or the first part of April in 1849. They had purchased coining equipment to mint gold coins in California. In Dodge City, Kansas, someone in their company traded a $5.00 copper specimen for some food. It is unknown who made the dies for their coinage but David Kinsey is a possibility, others think that it could possibly be Nixon & Co., or H. Johnson & W. Johnson, who engraved dies for some Civil War Tokens later on. Nixon and a couple of the Johnson’s were also members of this group. There were a few gold specimens struck with these dies and are extremely rare like most Territorial U.S. Gold Coins. IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 12-27-2008 07:50 PM
Very interesting stuff. Is this from a text or original research? IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 12-27-2008 08:05 PM
Point of curiosity: if they were heading to the gold fields in California, how did they end up in Dodge City KS? Per Wikipedia, the site of Dodge City was occupied by a succession of forts that protected the Santa Fe Trail. The town was not begun until 1871. The Santa Fe Trail ended in Santa Fe NM. From there it would have been a long haul over the high desert to California and then another trek up the central valley to Sacremento. Most of the miners came along one of the trails that I80 parrellels, from Nebraska City NE. IP: Logged |
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Tad Hale Posts: 120 |
posted 12-27-2008 08:50 PM
I had bought some spoons marked J.L.Moffat and having been in the Coin business for many years, I was checking out in one of my reference books to see if this was the same Moffat who made territorial gold coins in California. It was the same person John Little Moffat, I started looking to see what other silversmiths were connected to the minting of these coins and I came across the info on David Kinsey. I was also reading about Templeton Reid from Milledgeville, Ga. who minted the Territorial Gold coins in Dahlonega, Ga. Templeton's brother Elisha Reid was also a silversmith and made spoons marked E. Reid and worked with Templeton in his mint. There are other silversmiths who made these coins as well, the Bechtler's from North Carolina come to mind. Back in the 1830's there was only the Philadelphia mint, until the Dahlonega and Charlotte mints opened, which only made gold coins. This was due to the Gold Rush days in Georgia and North Carolina.When the California Gold Rush came along there were many private mints. This information came from a book entitled "Private Gold Coins and Patterns of the United States" by Donald H. Kagin, PHD. Dale, I made a mistake and it said that the pattern coin was found in Dodge City, Kansas. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-28-2008 12:10 AM
Here's a bit of information that might be useful: It looks like the Kinsey's may have arrived in the Port of New York from Liverpool on 21 June 1820 aboard the Lady Gallitin. At that time the family consisted of Thomas 46, Ann 45, Jane 20, Stephen (?) 18, IP: Logged |
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Tad Hale Posts: 120 |
posted 12-28-2008 12:50 AM
Bascall, Thanks for the Info. David was born in 1819 and his silversmith brother Edward was born in 1810. His father Thomas was a silversmith as well. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-28-2008 07:10 AM
No problem. In the 1850 U S Federal Census for Cincinnati, Ohio Thomas is still with them at age 77 and listed as a silversmith. Edward and David with their Indiana born wives are also listed as silversmiths. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 12-28-2008 03:47 PM
Additional Kinsey incidentals: David Kinsey died 30 March 1874 in Cincinnati, Ohio; his son Louis Adeptus was born 26 August 1853 in Cincinnati, Ohio; and Louis married his cousin Lottie A Ellicott 1 September 1874 in Cincinnati, Ohio. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 12-28-2008).] IP: Logged |
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