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argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 01-13-2009 12:06 PM
Probably paid too much but I really like scroll backs especially with bright cut engraving. Now for the question, I have a number of Beal items so know the Beal name mark quite well but the additional mark I have never seen. The additional mark appears to be a Pine tree and resembles the 'Pine tree shilling' type of pine tree. Does anyone know of a reference that includes the tree with the Beal name mark. Thanks for any input. In case you have never seen a Pine tree shilling here is a photo of one. No I do not have one as 'the fairest of them all' would have thrown me out into the cold If I spent that much for an old coin.
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 01-13-2009 04:51 PM
McGrew shows Beal's tree on page 131. He also makes the cryptic remark that it is a century to late to be related to the Pine Tree Shilling of Massachusetts. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 01-13-2009).] IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 01-13-2009 05:03 PM
Kane records two tablespoons -- one c 1795 with two pine tree marks in the Witherthur photo archive and one c 1785 with a single tree (species unspecified) at Yale. The first is monogramed TE, the second EW. IP: Logged |
argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 01-13-2009 05:34 PM
I do not have this reference and can not find a copy of it. Is it available anywhere that anyone knows of. Thank you. IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 01-13-2009 06:01 PM
google "isbn 0-89467-077-8" or try amazon -- various copies offered at well below the original price. IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 01-13-2009 06:05 PM
If you can get a good photo WEV can put it on his site. You will then have your reference. IP: Logged |
argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 01-13-2009 06:46 PM
Wev I have the Kane reference. I was asking about the McGrew reference. [This message has been edited by argentum1 (edited 01-13-2009).] IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 01-13-2009 09:13 PM
John McGrew's book Manufacturers' Marks on American Coin Silver was advertised in Silver Magazine. I think you have to order directly from the author. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 01-13-2009).] IP: Logged |
argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 01-14-2009 09:12 AM
ahwt Thank you for the info. I have contacted Silver Magazine and received a reply this AM. I will be sending payment today to add another useful reference. Now I have to add another shelf. IP: Logged |
FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 01-14-2009 06:23 PM
This post reminds me that my very first coin silver spoon was a Caleb Beal spoon with the same decorated bowl as yours and marked with Beal's initial mark. I was marked for a dollar and they gave me 10% off. The mark cartouche was filled with grime and it took much soaking and light brushing to see the CB mark. It is a great example of his work. I believe there is a similar spoon in the Cleaveland Museum (French Collection). Thanks for the memory. Fred IP: Logged |
argentum1 Posts: 602 |
posted 01-18-2009 02:55 PM
A more in-focus image of the mark
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