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bascall

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iconnumber posted 02-02-2009 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The North Carolina born jeweler John C Palmer appears in the 1860 U S Federal Census for Raleigh, North Carolina with a John and Lucy Palmer who are 18 and 17 years of age respectively.
The younger John is listed as an apprentice jeweler. This is the only census that John and Lucy appear with the elder John.
 
In the 1870 U S Federal Census for Milton, North Carolina, there is a John Palmer who is listed as a jeweler. Perhaps the southern silver collectors have more on this Milton, North Carolina jeweler.

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iconnumber posted 02-02-2009 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The following is from George Barton Cutten’s book, “The Silversmiths of North Carolina”. John C. Palmer (1806-1893) was born in Hayfields, N.C. and was apprenticed to John Y. Savage, of Raleigh. He worked at Oxford, moved to Haywood and in 1830 became a member of the firm of Hampton & Palmer in Salisbury. This firm dissolved in 1832 and he carried on the business by himself. He moved to Raleigh in November 1840 and had a daguerreotype gallery in addition to a jewelry business. From 1847 to 1855 he was member of the firm of Palmer and Ramsay. He was alone by 1855 and continued alone until he retired in 1889.
The mark shown in Cutten’s book for Palmer is “J.C. Palmer”.

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iconnumber posted 02-03-2009 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I left out the one interesting detail about Palmer’s business from Cutten's book. In 1834, while he was in Salisbury, Palmer hired “a certain Bagby of Lynchburg, Va.” to conduct business in Concord, NC. There are six Concords in North Carolina with the closest one to Salisbury about 22 miles away in the general direction of Charlotte and I imagine this was the location of his branch store.
I am not aware of any silversmith/jewelers that had branch so close, but this may have been nothing usual.

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iconnumber posted 02-03-2009 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember that while 22 miles may not be much today, in 1834 it was a considerable distance to travel, especially in a sparsely populated part of the country.

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iconnumber posted 02-03-2009 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twenty-two miles on horse back would not have been considered an especially long days ride back then.

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iconnumber posted 02-03-2009 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Provided, of course, that you had a horse.

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iconnumber posted 02-03-2009 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember reading somewhere that towns grew up about 20 to 25 miles apart from each other as that was the distance one could travel in a day. I was never sure if that meant that you could make a round trip in one day or just comfortable go one way. Commerce between towns was important and I imagine one day travel between them benefited all neighboring cities.

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