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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 02-17-2009 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Above is a cup with the mark of P.L.Taylor born in 1824 in Providence R.I. and died in 1860 in Brooklyn, NY. He worked as a silversmith and jeweler in Brooklyn NY circa 1845-1860 and advertised by 1847 as a silver flatware manufacturer.

This information is from WEV's site and was the only place that I saw Pardon L. Taylor's mark. I suspect that this cup was retailed by Mr. Taylor.

Thanks for the information on your site, WEV.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 02-18-2009 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't really add anything to Pardon L Taylor's information, but a Peter G Taylor who is possibly his father is listed in the 1830 New York City directories with the occupation comb store, toy making(s) and in the 1850's and 1860's as a hardware merchant.

Both Peter G Taylor and Pardon L Taylor are listed in the 1850 U S Federal Census for Brooklyn, New York as Merchants.

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ahwt

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Thanks, Bascall. Pardon is a very unusual name - perhaps it was a family name in the Taylor family.
I think this cup was from the 1850s when paneled cups were popular. The arches give a gothic feel to the design.

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bascall

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You're welcome ahwt, anytime. All the names associated with virtues and bible characters were fair game in early America and no doubt a carry over from Britian. It seems nothing I can think of in that line was left unused.

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Pardon Miller 1797-1852 was a silversmith and jeweler in Providence, RI. His son, Albert Providence Miller, worked there as a silversmith and watchmaker from 1847-59 (data from wev's project).

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 02-19-2009 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Use of an unusual given name, such as Pardon, really enhance common surnames. This technique is still used today to make the complete name more interesting.

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I was attracted to these tongs because P. L. Taylor retailed them. Pardon is a catchy named and I am surprised that he did not use his full name in his mark. Maybe it would have made his mark too long.

I was also interested in these tongs because of their lack of any decoration. No engraving of any kind with a simple curved paddle on one leg and a fork with only three plain tongs on the other. These probably date from 1850 when this plain style probably was not “in style”. They are also nice in that they are only 8 ½ inches long and should be very usable at the table.

Stebbins and Co. were in business from 1845-1856 and I really have not seen much written about this company. I see their mark a quite a bit on silver and they are listed in one reference as being the exclusive supplier of Bailey and Co for a extended time period. Charles Venable in his book Silver in America does not even reference this company. For some reason they seem to have been lost in most reference books.

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iconnumber posted 08-11-2014 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the Brooklyn Museum:
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Maker: P.L. Taylor

Dates: ca. 1815
Dimensions: 8 3/4 in. (22.2 cm) (show scale)
Markings: "P.L. Taylor in rectangle; eagle; man's head. Engraved monogram on upper side of handle: D.T.M.L.; marked on underside with maker's mark.
Signature: no signature
Inscriptions: no inscriptions
Collections: Decorative Arts
Museum Location: This item is not on view
Accession Number: 67.56.3
Credit Line: Gift of Charles R. S. Leckie


Also on WEV's site:Pardon L. Taylor

A legal record:

quote:
Petition 20885428 Details
State: Louisiana
Location: Natchitoches
Location Type: Parish
Salutation: To the Hon. Judge of the Sixteenth Judicial District of the State of Louisiana, sitting in and for the Parish of Natchitoches (, )
Filing Date: 1854-October-21
Ending Date: 1856-August-11

General Petition Information
Abstract: Phebe, a free woman of color known as Phebe Vail, charges that François Vienne, Sheriff of the parish of Natchitoches, has illegally seized her property, which consists of $349.95 in gold and silver, and three lots of ground. The land is now being advertised for sale. Phebe claims that she was in the “quiet possession” of her property, having acquired the land through valid acts of sale, when it was seized in execution of a judgment obtained by the firm of Taylor Hartt & Co. against one Valery B. Schultz. Phebe argues that her property was seized in spite of her “opposition, protest & remonstrances” to the sheriff, because she was unable to furnish the security required for an injunction to stop the sale. She argues that her only recourse is to make a legal opposition to the sheriff’s actions by suing him as well as Peter G. Taylor, Hiram Hartt and Pardon L. Taylor, administrators of the estate of their late partner Henry B. Dearth. She prays for the return of her gold and property and for $300 in damages. A related document reveals that the defendants claimed that Phebe Vail was Schultz's lover of many years, and that Schultz had placed his property in Phebe's name in order to protect himself from his creditors...


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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 08-11-2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From an auction:

Also on WEV's site.:

Stebbins, Edwin (1804-1845)

Stebbins, Almerick (1803-1854)

Stebbins, Festus (1768-1850)

Stebbins, Henry Chester (1823- )

Stebbins, James Knox (1843- )

Stebbins, Jonathan Chauncy (1787-1849)

Stebbins, Lauretta Ashley (1837- )

Stebbins, Lovisa (1764-1828)

Stebbins, Roxanna (1776-1840)

Stebbins, Sarah (1791- )

Stebbins, William (1820-1876)

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 08-11-2014 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Scott for the information. The marks on the E. Stebbins set are attributed to Peter Van Ness of New York by McGrew.
It does appear the all the Stebbins are listed as jewelers and not silversmiths. That put in question who was the retailer and maker of these tongs.
Neither Edwin or William Stebbins enjoyed a long life as Edwin died at age 40 and William died at age 56.
I have never been to the Brooklyn Museum - does it have an interesting display of silver?

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The Brooklyn Museum has tons of wonderful stuff. I haven't been there for a while, but when I lived in Brooklyn 20 years ago I used to spend hours wandering around their period rooms and admiring the decorative arts collection--I remember lots of pottery and glass. I don't specifically remember silver (this was before the silver bug bit me), and I don't know whether they still have the same sorts of displays they did back then, though. The website doesn't really say how it's currently organized.

It's well worth a visit for the period rooms. They include the wonderful 1881 Moorish smoking room from the Rockefeller brownstone, a fabulous Deco study, and an entire 17th century Dutch 2-room cottage.
BrooklynMuseum.org - Exhibitions: Decorative Arts Galleries and Period Rooms

Now I want to go back!

I wonder what the outcome was of Phebe's lawsuit.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 08-11-2014 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the BM website, their long term "19th-Century Modern" exhibit has a bunch of silver:

"The installation features objects dating from the early nineteenth century, when the trend toward modernism began, to the twentieth century. The items on view include furniture by John Henry Belter, Duncan Phyfe, the Thonet Brothers, Samuel Gragg, Bradley & Hubbard, and George Hunzinger; silver objects by Tiffany & Company, Gorham Manufacturing, and Napier (in particular designs by Christopher Dresser and Elsa Tannhardt); and a five-piece French clock garniture manufactured by Guilmet."
BrooklynMuseum.org - Exhibitions: 19th-Century Modern

(Apologies for dragging the thread off track!)

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 08-11-2014 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The brief description of the lawsuit does say that Phebe's petition was partially granted and that she appealed, but that the original decision was affirmed. It could be she got the property back but did not get money damages. I think Peter Taylor was Pardon's brother and he had a shop in New Orleans with Hartt.
Thanks for the information about the Brooklyn Museum - I would like to visit it someday.

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