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wev
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I thought it might be nice to finish up with something concrete accomplished, so spent the morning sifting through McElroy's 1839 Philadelphia City Directory.

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Your patience and perseverance is greatly respected & appreciated. Thanks.

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Your patience and perseverance is greatly respected & appreciated. Thanks.

Ditto.

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2009 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, guys. I enjoy doing these little exercises for themselves, but it's still nice to know they're of interest to somebody outside that auction site.

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A quick glance down the list - a number of gold beaters, a few thimble makers, one silver burnisher and a silver melter caught my eye. The gold beaters and thimble maker are easy to understand but I have never run across a silver melter?

Does any one know? Was he refining and making sheet for other smiths, perhaps by then with a steam engine and was the burnisher on his own and jobbing out too? It may mean that there was a large enough trade by then to make it as a sub-contractor.

Wev you have created a great resource - thank you!

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iconnumber posted 12-28-2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, both caught my eye, too (along with the 'barber bleeders' and 'layers of the dead').

Wishart only appears in the 1839 and 1840 directories (so noted in Brix); he is the only person listed at all on Kundle's Court.

Henry the melter is likewise a loner -- the term is only used for him. I suspect he had a large hot furnace and did the bulk conversion of old coins (or whatever) into ingots for the trade. There is only a single assayer listed, J. R. Eckfeldt of the US mint.

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iconnumber posted 12-29-2009 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was so much fun, I decided to do it again:

Daggett's 1843 New York City Directory

Beats having a real job any day.

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iconnumber posted 12-29-2009 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
smile wink biggrin cool

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iconnumber posted 12-30-2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Risking another batch of emoticons (they kind of creep me out), here is

Frost & Stimpson's 1823 Boston Directory

and that's it, I'm done for the year.

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iconnumber posted 12-31-2009 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WEV, I love your lists!

Can anyone shed some light on Mr. Lauriat? I get the gold beater but the rest is curious?

"Lauriat, Lewis A.- gold beater & Washington assay master - rear 66 State"
SILVERSMITHS & RELATED CRAFTSMEN
in Frost & Stimpson's 1823 Boston Directory

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And A really big HAPPY, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!

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Louis Anselm Lauriat was the progenitor of a bevy of beaters and one silversmith. He was also a chemist (listed as such in the 1845 directory) and the officially appointed federal assayer of metals in the city through at least 1835.

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The best moticon (sp?) of 2009 (maybe ever)!!! With 9 minutes to go... Do I need to get a life or what!?

Many happy returns to all.

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iconnumber posted 01-01-2010 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a more serious note - What was a federal assayer of metals - assaying for what? Coin standard? And why, who except the Baltimore assay ever checked up on silversmiths?

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It could be that the assayer processed silver from coins into bars or other forms that were useful in either making silver items or shipping silver.
The use of the word "federal" might mean they were licensed by the government or may just be puffing.

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