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cbc58 Posts: 333 |
posted 05-01-2021 04:57 PM
Two questions: 1.) is there any way to tell if Paul Revere himself made an item? 2.) is there a definitive way to determine if a Revere spoon is genuine? I assume you closely examine the marks and form, and do an XRF test on the metal to confirm it is likely of the period. anything else? is there a certification process beyond that anywhere ? Tks in advance. IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-02-2021 10:28 PM
I suspect that the only way that comes close to knowing that the object was made by Paul Revere is if it came down through your family or there was another form of chain of custody that appeared genuine. I have a dealer friend who acquired a water pitcher with Paul Revere's mark that he thought was genuine. He really did not want to sell it so he put on it a price that he thought would be higher than anyone would pay. It still sold. I remember an old study by Winterthur Museum on fakes and if I can find it I will post it. IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-04-2021 11:26 AM
I think this is the article that I remembered reading some years ago.
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Silverpath Posts: 91 |
posted 05-04-2021 06:10 PM
Great article! Thanks for sharing. IP: Logged |
cbc58 Posts: 333 |
posted 05-04-2021 06:10 PM
ahwt - thank you very much for finding that article. this part really caught my attention: ...scientists at Winterthur have determined that in a collection of more than 1,000 silver pieces, supposedly by early American silversmiths like Revere, 76 percent of them were not genuine. wow. I was wondering if Revere used a certain mark by himself vs. the other members of his shop. I have Kane's book and it shows his business sold quite a bit of silver -- and his work is not rare but very collectible thanks to Mr. Longfellow. The Revere family ought to send royalty checks to the Longfellows... IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-05-2021 12:44 AM
This is from The Cleveland Museum of Art Catalogue of American Silver and provides a taste of reaction that silver researchers had to the invention of X-ray fluorescence spectroscopy pioneered by Winterthur. Researchers loved it and most of the silver objects in this lovely book went through this analysis. This excellent book was published in both hard copy and softcover is readily available on the used book market. They show six or seven Paul Revere articles of which a couple are considered fakes. Other fakes are also shown; some are considered fakes by the silver content and others simply by comparison to known marks. I wonder about a few of their conclusions as this does seem to be a time period when researchers were actively looking for fakes. Sometimes if you look too hard one can find things that are not there. DuPont was called in to help Winterthur and my then brother-in-law helped develop their testing procedure in the early 1990s. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 05-05-2021).] IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 05-06-2021 11:04 PM
Thanks, cbc58 for asking about Paul Revere as I had forgotten about this book on silver in the Cleveland Art Museum and your question was a good remainder. I posted a couple examples of the author’s detective work above on some silver marked Revere. The conclusions reached for these were, I think, fairly easy to come make. Most of the silver in their collection is authentic, but it is interesting to see how fakes do turn up even in collections of prime collectors and museums. I should also note that much of the silver in this museum came from Hollis French, an early and important collector of American silver. [This message has been edited by ahwt (edited 05-06-2021).] IP: Logged |
ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 07-28-2021 04:42 PM
The above Revere spoon was from a recent auction. Some of items from this sale are in this month's Maine Antique Digest. Given the results of this sale everyone must have been satisfied with the authenticity of the Revere marks. This magazine normally does not have many silver items to look at, but this time they also included many interesting items from a Long Island auction sale as well as the Paul Revere sale. IP: Logged |
cbc58 Posts: 333 |
posted 08-06-2021 11:54 AM
Thank you ahwt. Someone had told me about that auction and I watched in real time as that spoon (and others) were bid up beyond values I could imagine. He made a lot of silver (well his shop did), so it's not that rare. Think I'd rather have one of his etchings so that I know he actually did the work. IP: Logged |
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