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ahwt Posts: 2351 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 04-16-2023 08:52 PM These are coin beakers or cups that are marked for E. and D. Kinsey of Cincinnati and S. C. Jett of St. Louis. Interestingly they both use the same milled band design for the top and bottom rims. It may be the Steven Jett brought his cup from the Kinsey firm for resale in St. Louis. The Kinsey firm was large enough to make milled bands and they may have just sold that part to Mr. Jett. I think it is more likely that they sold the finished beaker for resale. Steven Jett was born in Kentucky in 1819 but was in St. Louis by the time his first child was born in 1846. Edward and David were brothers that were born in Wales but were in Cincinnati by 1840. Both of these beakers are a little smaller than other beakers of this time period as the Kinsey beaker is 3"while the Jett beaker is 3 1/4” tall. [This message has been edited by Mod assistant (edited 04-17-2023).] IP: Logged
cbc58 Posts: 340 Registered: Aug 2008	posted 04-18-2023 02:11 PM I was going to ask a question about milled bands and found this link - very helpful. A GLOSSARY of MILLED BANDS It says that milled bands were "applied" to items and I wonder if that means they were made separately and then added to a piece... or if the bands were formed from the one piece of silver by cranking it through a die or forming machine. My guess is the later.. but wonder if there were additional steps taken to thicken the silver at the edges where it was done. [This message has been edited by Mod assistant (edited 04-18-2023).] IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2351 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 04-19-2023 09:39 AM I think the bands were made separately and then cut to the proper length to fit the cup. The top picture is from a Peter Krider cup while the bottom picture is from the Kinsey cup. Both show the ends of the band that was “applied” to the rim of the cup and show the slight “smear” where the two ends meet. The middle picture is from a tea caddy made about 50 years later than the cups. By this time the ends of the bands are no longer visible. I do not know what the change was, but the silversmith no longer left the ends of the bands visible. I assume that the bands are soldered on during both time periods. The November/December 2008 issue of Silver Magazine has an excellent article by Paula Artal-Isbrand that explains the changes in the techniques that Paul Revere developed over his lifetime done to save time. I suspect that similar changes were made in the application of bands for the purpose of saving time and in the process made a better article. [This message has been edited by Mod assistant (edited 04-19-2023).] IP: Logged

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