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Bob Schulhof Posts: 194 |
posted 04-25-1999 02:00 PM
Shiebler Fiorito 1902 Special Features Fiorito is an example of both Shiebler and a floral pattern at it's best. It is again multi-motif each piece having a different flower brought out in beautiful high relief. The knife has a much higher relief than most other hollow handled knives.The finish is quite distinctive. Dating Most of the pieces bare a Patent May 13-02 mark. Rainwater states that the company was out of business by 1915 with no apparent successor. Therefore unlike many American patterns that were acquired by Gorham, with Shiebler one is certain to have an old piece made before 1915. Pieces Shown Item length our cost Photo of Place Setting: Key Pieces As usual the knife and salad fork are the most difficult. It seems that the dinner fork is far harder to find than the luncheon fork. Many services included only the luncheon fork. We have used the ice cream fork as an interim solution until we can find a salad fork (it looks remarkably similar, only a little rounder). I have seen salad forks but was not able to buy a single. Comments Certainly no discussion of great silver is complete without a tribute to the prolific and creative George Shiebler, and this pattern is a prime example of he virtuosity. There is currently a knowledgeable cadre of collectors who will buy anything with the Shiebler winged insignia. The Shiebler version of Medallion that graces the cover of Soeffing (3) is currently the most highly prized (and priced) American flatware of the era. IP: Logged |
M H Bradshaw Posts: 32 |
posted 05-03-1999 04:48 PM
There is also a flat, all silver knife with an orchid motif that is 7-1/2". It looks like a breakfast/child's knife. Pg. 172 of Turner's says that an orchid motif is for a butter knife, but this doesn't seem like a master butter. What motif is on the individual spreader shown above? IP: Logged |
Bob and Carol Carnighan Posts: 63 |
posted 05-03-1999 05:46 PM
Additional information on Fiorito. We list pieces (mainly place pieces) not listed above. The numbers refer to pattern numbers in the Book of Silver. Dimensions are given where there might be confusion. individual asparagus tong--#12 butter pic--#9 child's fork--#10 cocktail fork--#9 sardine fork--? butter knife FH (5 5/8")--#11 butter knife HH (6")--? fruit knife HH--#6 master butter (6 5/8")--#8 master butter twisted handle (7 3/8")--#7 coffee spoon (5 1/2")--#8 bouillon spoon (5")--#5 citrus spoon (5 7/8")--#10 cream soup spoon (5 1/2")--#10 gumbo soup spoon (7")--#2 With regard to the comments on the "ice cream fork" above, we have 13 of these forks and have never seen a similar fork. We favor the interpretation that these are salad forks. IP: Logged |
Bob Schulhof Posts: 194 |
posted 06-15-1999 12:10 AM
Received an e-mail from Robert Carnighan with additional information: "In response to your Fiorito posting on the Silver Salon Forum, I replied that your "ice cream fork" was probably a salad fork. ince than I have received forks a little larger than that "ice cream fork" (see attachment). I had 13 of the smaller fork (5 3/4); the larger fork measures 6 1/8. The smaller fork has a curved "bowl"; the larger fork is flat. The smaller fork is similar to the American Beauty fish fork with the curved "bowl". I now believe that the larger fork is the salad fork. The smaller fork is probably a fish fork. Bob Carnighan IP: Logged |
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