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Bob Schulhof Posts: 194 |
posted 04-28-1999 10:20 AM
Collecting Russian Place Settings Special Features
The K with the Greek looking Phi indicates Faberge. Dating The CAS is the makers mark, the 84 is the quality which is a lower grade around .875 fine. The date is clearly spelled out here as 1869. The city symbol is for St. Petersburg. After about 1900 the dates were dropped. The Faberge piece has no date, but it does show an 84. Pieces Shown: Photo: Key Pieces It would appear that forks and knives are harder to find than spoons, unless we have been very unlucky. Questions: Does anyone have a good reference on Russian flatware? Does anyone have a complete setting they could show? What patterns were made? IP: Logged |
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 04-28-1999 10:53 AM
Here in Southern California, a great deal of Russian silver has been showing up in the shops lately. The majority are spoons, occasionally forks, knives, and serving pieces. Most are plain fiddlebacks with rather odd proportions. Prices vary widely and most pieces show wear. If you're planning a vacation, you can by a fat handful of 19th c. flatware for around $10 in Moscow. IP: Logged |
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 04-28-1999 11:02 AM
The first booklet is in English. The second book is in Russian. IP: Logged |
Bob Schulhof Posts: 194 |
posted 05-23-1999 02:01 PM
Update Andrew Katz of Windham Antiques Appraisal Services (802)649-5712 did a search for me on the Faberge Pieces. They are a great source of research info and will research a piece for $15.00 (results guaranteed). He states that the ladies head with the triangle behind is a Russian National Hallmark used from 1908 to 1927. I recently got a matching fork to the Faberge Pattern. This had the same marks plus an imperial Eagle and Faberge Spelled out. Had to pay $320 because of the better marks. Fork & Spoon shown together Complete marks are shown below. KFaberge spelled out completely in Cyrillic plus the Imperial Eagle. Also 84 with head and triangle behind. Second piece gives provenance to first, I would think. On bourgeois e-bay. What a country.
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wayne bednersh unregistered |
posted 10-29-1999 09:48 PM
More Russian spoons may be seen at the Souvenir Spoon Museum IP: Logged |
Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 10-29-1999 10:42 PM
I would say, watch for fakes, especially with name pieces like Faberge or Ovchinnikov. Although I am certain that the fall of communism has driven many people to sell off their silver, there are a lot of talented metal workers in the former Soviet Union who can turn out amazing fakes, enamels in particular. I would be very leery of buying any Russian antiques over the internet, especially enamelled silver by famous makers. The plain fiddle spoons are almost certainly authentic; it's the fantastic looking ones that could be problematic. IP: Logged |
Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 06-14-2003 01:36 AM
Just for interest, here are a Faberg fish knife and fork, Moscow 1896-1907, from a Scandinavian auction three years ago:
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qryoungsf Posts: 3 |
posted 11-09-2004 02:21 AM
where do I start researching the pieces I have? russian - thats all I know.... IP: Logged |
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