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Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-19-2009 01:08 PM [26-1867] The story started 2 years ago. Me at a flee marked. And I saw this. It said "bring me home I am a good piece" I know that prices are prohibited but you get the price anyhow. 150 DKK corresponding to 20USD. Price is important for the story. Because I said to much you must stay and I go home alone. I talked - also talked to him - and he said that it was old. We talked I asked no hallmarks - no sorry. Me sorry that it is so worn Yes shame - so no buy - I went home alone. Too much destruction - but we did like each other. Time passes - summer became winter - and it again turned new year. In fact 2 years past and no regrets. I forgot all about it. Then one day wife said - there is a flee market in ....should we go? I had been there before so we went. I had not been there for 2 years. Same seller, same cream mug - still there - asking me to go home. Seller had given up - price now 100DKK corresponding to 15USD. Too much - so I went home without. Leaving cream mug to a destiny - nobody knew.... 1 month later - wife should we go there again. She had seen close for the grandchildren (a bargain it was so we went) Still no buy - cream mug looking so sad. But no to much has been removed. So we went home. At an internet site - discussing silver, plated and etc. In Swedish language. Then it struck me........ the cream mug it is.... Yes what is it - was it worth the money? For the time being the story ended - that Sunday (only open Sunday) was so far away - so long time waiting. I have delayed for mere that 2 years - it could be that cream mug had found another owner. Sunday - there it was -- now I am from Aalborg (and have never paid the full price for anything) so I had to bargain - no telling what I paid. But cream mug found a loving and caring home - and now for you - what did I buy? IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-19-2009 03:21 PM I give it a try, it is a cream jug made by americain silverfactory and in the factory worked a emmigrated scandinavian silversmith,he decorated it around 1880. Including the two years. it has absolute something to do with Aalborg where the piece was find after a long and interesting history! I also like it when a piece shows his age and it's create his own character by time. A little worn out but still beautiful. I hope that it is a still older piece than I think for to make it just more interesting. Please give me a link, it has to be special, you change pewter into silver (French silver) so what is this? Ofcourse I have to wait but not two years please! IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-19-2009 03:25 PM Time is more likely 1790. According to what I head :-) IP: Logged
wev Moderator Posts: 4121 Registered: Apr 99	posted 06-19-2009 03:37 PM Can you put up a clear shot of the underside of the base? IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-19-2009 03:56 PM IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-19-2009 04:27 PM Hmmm sixty years earlier, even more interesting but my try was in the right direction I Suppose. Please answer NO/ or total wrong. Now I know I didn't knew anything about silver/plate (that's for sure). But it is one of the earliest silverplate pieces ever seen at this side. Good silver/plate hunt IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-19-2009 04:31 PM sandwich construction - does that say anything? IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-19-2009 05:05 PM Is it to find out by pattern, because no mark is to find or is it to recognize also by the kind of engraving? Please can you explain a little from this object? IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-19-2009 05:13 PM I read your story twice and put my joker in the direction of Sweden, I will concentrate me this weekend (if sun shines or not) at a better second try. A early silverplate Swedisch mug made by ........... and paid for lesser than the thought. IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-19-2009 05:17 PM Sandwich construction is new pattern for me and I am not able to explain what you mean. (But it is a push in the right direction)thanks a lot. (sandwich construction where is my dictionary?). IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-19-2009 05:36 PM Sandwich is a consumption made by somebody with two slices of bread and that will create the fact? that your cream mug has two outsides (I don't know how to translate it? But it is made out of two bases, so the cream staid in better temperature? IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-19-2009 11:12 PM sorry but you are as wrong ss can be - like me. Sandwich refer to silver cobber silver sheffield and silly me did not know. And I did not see the helmet - though I found it nice. Secondly so lucky that noone else did... IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-20-2009 03:32 AM That confirm the litte knowledge at this side, ss. But I always give it a try. How was the research for this one? The only thing I knew that there were countries silverplate their objects in the 18th century but are there also older pieces known? I hope that there will follow more reactions and not the selfisch (egoistic) times I tried it, but other reactions were/are possible (and better with information) I think?.:-) IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 06-20-2009 07:32 AM Well the essence of the story is that my cream mug is made of Sheffield plate around 1780-1790ties. I found it (at a very attractive price) but due to my lack of knowledge - I did not buy. I was lucky that years after I bought from same seller nobody had found. By pure luck I had learned (by mistake) and I was not to late to respond. Today it is mine - but think for years it has been available at a price that one laugh of. But know-how is vital. Vital in search for the gooood things. They are out there just pay attention. Museums pieces are there. (more than 200 years old.) IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 06-20-2009 05:23 PM I thought that everyone can/could react at this topic. I'm sorry about my over enthousiasm and putting my thoughts and questions at this topic. My friend in Denmark thanks for explaining! Have a nice weekend to all of you! [This message has been edited by silverhunter (edited 06-20-2009).] IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 07-10-2020 02:29 PM Reading this story again. This was missing. Old Sheffild Plate was found by mistake. The silver smith used a penny when hammering a piece of silver. The copper penny was used to have something to hammer on. When compleded zthe penny had fasted to the silver. copper is cheap, silver had a price 30X copper. So by using copper and a small layer of silver it was possible to make items at a lower price. He used this commercially and invented Old Sheffild Plate. The silver smith saw the unfair competion. Solid silver too expensive and if you could not see if OSP or silver - why pay more. The silversmith started using deep engraving - there the OSP could not compete because the deep cut revielled the copper. So people could see oooh its not silver. IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 07-10-2020 10:54 PM Great story and I hope you are still enjoying your cream jug. Flea markets produce many, many good memories. IP: Logged

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