SMP Logo
SM Publications
Silver Salon Forums - The premier site for discussing Silver.
SMP | Silver Salon Forums | SSF - Guidelines | SSF - FAQ | Silver Sales

The Silver Salon Forums
Since 1993
Over 11,793 threads & 64,769 posts !!
Silverplate Forum
How to Post Photos REGISTER (click here)

customtitle open  SMP Silver Salon Forums
tlineopen  Silverplate Forum
tline3open  Tea Set Markings

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

ForumFriend SSFFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Tea Set Markings
BarbS

Posts: 14
Registered: Mar 2003

iconnumber posted 04-01-2003 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarbS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am wondering if anyone recognizes the markings on a tea set I just purchased. Photos attached.

Thanks for your help. I have no information on this set at all at present.


IP: Logged

Stephen

Posts: 625
Registered: Jan 2003

iconnumber posted 04-02-2003 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a mark of the Knickerbocker Silver Co. of Port Jervis, New York. The thing on the left is the profile of a man's(?) head facing right with long hair and a strange looking hat.

The Knickerbocker Mfg. Co. became the Knickerbocker Silver Co. (K.S. Co.) after 1894 but before 1904, probably about 1900. K.S. Co. was taken over by the Crescent Silverware Mfg. Co., Inc. in 1962.

It looks like a nice set, hope this helps.

IP: Logged

BarbS

Posts: 14
Registered: Mar 2003

iconnumber posted 04-02-2003 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarbS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for your help again Stephen. Do you know of any way I could date this set, or would perhaps a catalogue be the only way?

IP: Logged

Stephen

Posts: 625
Registered: Jan 2003

iconnumber posted 04-02-2003 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Published research on twentieth-century silverplate holloware is scanty at best and mostly covers the major manufacturers. What has been published doesn't go much beyond 1960.

Old catalogs or trade publications would certainly be the best way to research this. I'm not aware of any reproductions of same documenting Knickerbocker's work or where their archives (if any) ended up. It might be worth contacting the Minisink Valley Historical Society in Port Jervis to see if they can help -- they do have a web page with an E-mail contact.

Note that in 1977, Crescent (also of Port Jervis) was sold to Samuel Kirk & Son,, Inc. In 1979, the Stieff Co. purchased the Kirk Co., and the the combined companies operated under the name of Kirk-Stieff Co. In 1990, Kirk-Stieff was acquired by Lenox Inc. (which also owns Gorham), a unit of Brown-Forman Corp. based in Louisville, Ky. I'm not sure what kind of information you might be able to get by contacting Brown-Forman or Lenox, but that also might be worth a try.

Good luck and if you decide to pursue it, let us know what you find out!

IP: Logged

BarbS

Posts: 14
Registered: Mar 2003

iconnumber posted 04-02-2003 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BarbS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much Stephen, I really appreciate your help. Will certainly let you know if I find anything.

IP: Logged

All times are ET

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a


1. Public Silver Forums (open Free membership) - anyone with a valid e-mail address may register. Once you have received your Silver Salon Forum password, and then if you abide by the Silver Salon Forum Guidelines, you may start a thread or post a reply in the New Members' Forum. New Members who show a continued willingness to participate, to completely read and abide by the Guidelines will be allowed to post to the Member Public Forums.
Click here to Register for a Free password

2. Private Silver Salon Forums (invitational or $ donation membership) - The Private Silver Salon Forums require registration and special authorization to view, search, start a thread or to post a reply. Special authorization can be obtained in one of several ways: by Invitation; Annual $ Donation; or via Special Limited Membership. For more details click here (under development).

3. Administrative/Special Private Forums (special membership required) - These forums are reserved for special subjects or administrative discussion. These forums are not open to the public and require special authorization to view or post.


| Home | Order | The Guide to Evaluating Gold & Silver Objects | The Book of Silver
| Update BOS Registration | Silver Library | For Sale | Our Wants List | Silver Dealers | Speakers Bureau |
| Silversmiths | How to set a table | Shows | SMP | Silver News |
copyright © 1993 - 2022 SM Publications
All Rights Reserved.
Legal & Privacy Notices