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nihontochicken

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iconnumber posted 02-05-2005 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nihontochicken     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't collect much silverplate, but picked up this piece just because I liked the apparent early Georgian styling.

I was particularly drawn to the open handle with the early style dolphin head finial, also the three feet (which are hairy with toes having fingernails, though I don't know what this represents or how it fits in with the fish motif).

I wonder about the following. First, why would a maker choose to replicate this piece in silverplate? It seems to me to be a somewhat peculiar piece outside the mainstream, even for the early Georgian period, likely to appeal to relatively few potential silverplate buyers. Though heavy, it is not a one-piece casting, and there is a fair amount of handwork in that the handle and feet (all castings of mediocre quality) and gadrooned edge (much better quality) are all separate pieces soldered on to the main body. Secondly, having had the good taste (IMO) to put in the time and effort to replicate this offbeat but appealing piece, why didn't the maker leave any identifying marks?
Opinions?

Also any guesses as to who/when/where?

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-05-2005 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll leave the silver questions to the experts, but I may have an answer to the why replicate question. During the Victorian era, members of the rising middle class who made their money in trade and industry did everything possible to act like the upper classes. They would even rent silver and china for suitable occasions when making an impression was important. I can imagine that there must have been a lucrative market in inexpensive knock-offs of high-priced originals. At a dinner party who would be so gauche ast to lift the suace boat to look for authentic hallmarks?!

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Tom

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 02-05-2005 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Museums have had gift shops for a very long time. And these shops have offered copies and adaptations of things in the museums' collections for just about the same amount of time. My guess would be that this particular piece is a reproduction/ adaptation of an old item. Which may have been chosen because it is so strange.

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