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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 03-22-2006 06:23 PM
  
 Found this gorgeous, slightly imperfect covered bowl today. It is about 13" long by 11" wide and lidded. It appears that the lid has lost it's handle, which it appeared like it slid in a slot of sorts. There is the # 176 which would have been hidden under the handle, which matches a 176 on the base end. There are also 29/72 opposite side of the hallmarks. You will have a rough time of seeing them. They were somewhat tucked under the bottom as well as my bad photgraphy. They appear to be thus. Bottom row are a rampant lion facing right a star and another rampant lion facing right. These are all in squares. Top row looks like a fleur-de-lis a crown (similair to the one for Sheffield England and a rampant lion facing left( similair to the Glascorw Scotland one. The fleur-delis, who knows? They are all larger than the bottom row and are not in squares. Any one know who the maker may have been? Does Canada go with the same marks as England? The fleur-de-lis made me wonder about Canada. Any ideas or knowlege would be appreciated. IP: Logged |
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outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 03-23-2006 12:22 AM
I have a simple covered dish with the same handle. The handle turns in the slot to lock and lift the lid, but then you remove the handle so you can use the lid for a serving dish, also. IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 03-23-2006 07:32 AM
Outwest,I think you are right. That way the lid can sit down flat. What is the handle on yours made of? (However chances of me ever finding another are most certainly nil.) Got any ideas on the age of your bowl, or who made it? Does yours have a number under the handle to match the base? Thanks for telling me about the lid. IP: Logged |
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outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 03-24-2006 01:44 AM
Yours is much nicer then mine, but I like mine a lot. Mine is plated on nickle silver. I think this style of twisting lid handle was used for a long, long time (1700's?). Mine is most certainly from the 1950's (I think). The handle is silver plated, too. I don't know who made mine. There seems to be an anteater hallmark there.  Here are pictures of it: IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 03-24-2006 03:04 AM
Actually, I have bought several of these handles. They were always being sold as napkin rings. They do exist and can be found. IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 03-24-2006 12:36 PM
Thanks outwest and Dale. Both of those things will be helpful in my search or having one made. Eureka! I found the maker. According to Dorthy Rainwater it is the sterling mark for EG Wester & Son 1886 then bought by International in 1928. Glad I started buying books, ( bet some of you are as well *big smile*) Between the wonderful people here and books and the internet I may actually learn something. Last year I had not a clue about silver, now well just a little more. IP: Logged |
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salmoned Posts: 336 |
posted 03-24-2006 12:55 PM
I believe that mark is usually called a beaver. IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 03-24-2006 03:38 PM
outwest, found your anteater/beaver (*smile*) in Rainwaters book as a mark used in 1901. However it was used in that case on silverware made for International Expositions. Pan-American Exposition Buffalo. It was on the Tiffany page. That is the only mark like that in Rainwater, that I saw. Will look some more in other places for your nice serving pieces maker. IP: Logged |
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outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 03-24-2006 04:35 PM
thanks, venus! IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 03-25-2006 08:44 AM
Re: the beaver mark - see: Hallmark Identification IP: Logged |
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outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 03-26-2006 12:44 AM
Thanks, Scott! So the beaver(anteater ) AND the JS & S in a shield are in that previous post although in a different order. That's neat. I assume mine is from the 1950's as I was told it was a wedding present from that time, but I bought it at a yard sale. Is mine English silver plate then, not Canadian? Venus, Now you can keep your eye out for a napkin ring. [This message has been edited by outwest (edited 03-26-2006).] IP: Logged |
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venus Posts: 282 |
posted 03-26-2006 11:04 AM
lol ...... yep indeed I will have to do so. Thanks for the advice too. I will try searching now that I have a name. IP: Logged |
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