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CMGASPER

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iconnumber posted 06-16-2005 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CMGASPER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have two old silver (may be silver plate)forks and I have been unable to identify the Hallmark. I tried to research it in Kovels' American Silvermarks but realized that since there is a crown, they may not be American made. The mark appears to be K&P, a crown, G B and EP in an oval. They are heavy, weighing 2.4 ounces each.





Thank you to anyone that helps.

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hello

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iconnumber posted 06-17-2005 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hello     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I know that EP generally stands for electroplate, so as far as that goes they are silverplated. Just so you know you need to copy and paste the bottom line in (below your pictures in photonbucket) b/c no one can get at you photos but you (when you say click my album.)

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TBC

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iconnumber posted 06-17-2005 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TBC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello and welcome,

I preface all I am going to write by saying I know very little about silverplate. I am sure that you (and I) will learn more from an expert later on.

After reading your post I dipped into my pocket edition of Bradbury's Book of Hallmarks. Your forks are electroplated silver; but not the coveted Sheffield plate. Assuming that the maker was of a lawful dispostion, I would guess that these forks date from pre-1896. This is because in that year the Sheffield Assay Office threatened silver-platers who used the crown with prosecution as it was seen as an imitation of the Sheffield silver mark. The use of a crown on silverplated ware had been unlawful since 1784 (restated in 1844) but tolerated until the Assay Office took action in 1896.

As to the marks, I cannot say. I would guess, however, that they are English, pre-1896.

With kind regards,

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CMGASPER

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iconnumber posted 06-19-2005 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CMGASPER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the help and taking the time to post a response. I thought that perhaps the EP signified electroplate but then I wasn't sure if that was part of the makers mark. I appreciate gaining the knowledge as to approximate age.

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Silver Lyon

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iconnumber posted 06-19-2005 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver Lyon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is actualy a London based manufacturer of electroplate, who used the crown for added effect. The previous answer is perfect as to date as c.1895.
The makers, KLEINWORT & PEERLESS

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CMGASPER

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iconnumber posted 06-19-2005 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CMGASPER     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for identifying the maker for me. I spent another two hours on the computer today trying to research K&P and came up with nothing. Very frustrating! Thank you to those who posted an answer and for being willing to share your knowledge.

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