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kinverroy

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iconnumber posted 05-18-2005 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinverroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can anyone give me a clue as to what this is ?

It looks like a small cake slice but at only 6" long with the slice about 1.5" wide by 2" it would be a pretty small slice of cake.

The only marks are on front side of handle and are also a puzzle.It is like a diamond shape with a letter 'I' in a circle on the top.Within the diamond is a "13" above a "D" above "4" "R" "X" and at the bottom of the diamond is the letter "W".

Wondered about Military significance.

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Scotia

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iconnumber posted 05-18-2005 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

The piece you have is marked with a Victorian registration diamond / lozenge, which dates your piece to the 13th March 1868 if my calculations are correct.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 05-18-2005 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are no military markings anywhere that I can see. Are you mistaking the standard British registry stamp as being military?

As Scotia pointed out, the diamond shaped marking is simply saying that the design for this particular object was registered for a piece of metalwork (as opposed to ceramic, glass or wood) at the British patent office on March 13, 1868. It would be like finding a marking on an American object that says Patented on March 13, 1868. It could have been produced anytime after that date as well.

I do not see any hallmarks on the server which suggests that it is silver plated.

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 05-18-2005 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot see any military significance either. If it was mess silver, it would probably be sterling and marked with regimental insignia.

Tom

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kinverroy

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iconnumber posted 05-18-2005 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinverroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgive my ignorance having only started looking at family items and finding them so interesting. The only markings are the diamond lozenge, which I had never heard of. I thought maybe that the numbers and letters represented a military unit.

Thanks for being so ready to share your knowledge.

I still don't know what it's specific function was.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 05-19-2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will see the British registry diamond on all kinds of objects that were patented in that country between 1842 and 1884. It was the standard way of telling people that the right to use your design was protected by British law. The numbers and letters in the registry diamond on your server are: The roman numeral in the circle at the top tells what kind of material the item is made of - I for metal, II for wood, III for glass or IV for ceramics. The number at the top of the diamond is the day of the month it was registered, the letter at the right is the year is was registered with X being the code for 1868,and the letter at the bottom is the month with W being the code for March, and the number at the left being the parcel number of the group in which it was submitted that day. In the middle are the letters Rd which is simply the abbreviation for "Registered". In your example, since the registry diamond is relatively narrow they had to squeeze in the "d" a little higher up in the center field than you typically see it.

As to what your server would have served, it could be used for pretty much anything small such as slices of vegetables or fruits such as tomatoes or cucumbers, or perhaps petit fours or whatever you like.

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kinverroy

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iconnumber posted 05-27-2005 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kinverroy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for taking the time to give me such a lot of information.

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