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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 07-06-2006 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This pair of Tiffany repousse silver plate salt & pepper shakers turned up on eBay last month (#7419842362). Each is stamped with an interesting mark I have not encountered before. It seems to be A S, with possibly another letter in between.

Has anybody seen it before?

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William Hood

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iconnumber posted 07-06-2006 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for William Hood     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul:

No, I have not encountered this mark before.

Bill

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 07-06-2006 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I can contribute is that much of Tiffany's plated ware was produced and sold as commercial lines. It apparently had little retail exposure. The letters may indicate the club, restaurant, country club etc that owned them. I have seen such examples, with a distinctive type marking or name. One that stuck in my mind was a 'Far Rockaway Country Club' item.

The term 'silver soldered' usually indicates a commercial item. The A whatever (O?) S within a razor blade could be some such place.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2006 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I don't know why a hotel would bury a tiny rendering of its logo on the undersides of salt & pepper shakers when it could have taken advantage of the monogram reserves on the front.

That the A?S mark occurs amidst all of the other Tiffany marks leads me to believe it pertains to the manufacture, rather than the purchaser, of these shakers.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 07-07-2006 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no real knowledge, but Adams, Shaw & Company were silverplate suppliers to Tiffany in the 1870s.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2006 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To both prove and thus prevent theft. The evidence of a monogram on the bottom made stealing less likely. And avoided the obvious drawbacks.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 07-07-2006 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think wev wins.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 07-07-2006 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr. Shaw is not in my tree, but here is the page for Caleb Adams

What's my prize?

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 07-15-2006 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The mark is the one used, very briefly, by Adams & Shaw, who were exclusive makers of electroplate in Newark, NJ for Tiffany & CO. Adams dropped out in fairly short order, but Thomas Shaw continued to make plated goods in Tiffany's own factory in Newark (on Mulberry St.) from 1877 to 1893, when he moved the plating works to the Forest Hill factory in Newark, where sterling was also made until 1985.

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