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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-29-2006 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Here is another silverplate marking I can not find. I have been looking in the book of old silver and have come across a marking that is very close (page 381, top line on left #5281) the interesting part is I can not find the mark number in the index. Any help would be appreciated.

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bibit

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iconnumber posted 07-29-2006 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good, thank you very much. I do have another question or 30. smile Do companys have different marking for sterling and silverplate besides the additional mark of "sterling"

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"Sterling" can only be applied to solid silver, 92.5% pure. To the best of my knowledge plate marking is not regulated except that it cannot be marked as sterling. Different companies might apply their maker's mark to both their plate and silver items, but they must mark silver and may not pass silver off as silverplate. Outside the US, silver content is denotated using marks that very from country to country. Again, plate marking is generally not regulated except that it may not be marked as solid silver. This is a simple answer to very complex question. I suggest you look at some of the general works recommended onthe forum library page. Many can be found in public libaries.

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Tom

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Dale

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As a general rule, on silver that is 'produced' rather than 'crafted', made by 'factories' instead of 'silversmiths'; sterling marks indicate which company made the piece. Silverplate marks are very often about how something was sold. Silverplate marks are 'brand names', which is a whole different subject.
Hope this helps.

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Most U.S. companies use the word Sterling to denote sterling silver which means that it is 92.5 percent silver and 7.5 percent other metals. On rare occasion you might find the silver purity expressed numerically such as 925 which means 92.5 percent silver, or 900 or 800 which mean 90 percent and 80 percent respectively. U.S. makers normally use the word Sterling though. Once in a while you might also see a U.S. maker use the term Coin Silver which doesn't have much of an exact meaning other than normally it means 90 percent silver. The original meaning of Coin Silver on U.S. produced silver simply meant that it was mostly silver that was made from melting down whatever unwanted silver objects were at hand such as old candlesticks and coins and plates and whatever.

For American produced silver if you do not see the word Sterling or Coin Silver or the numbers 925, 900 or 800 you should expect the object to not be silver and be silver plate or something that looks like silver such as nickel-copper. Also beware of words that use the word silver in combination with other words such as German Silver or Alpaca Silver or all kinds of similar phrases. None of these are silver - these are all just marketing ploys so that the seller can use the word silver yet be able to argue in court that the marking didn't actually say it was sterling.

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bibit

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iconnumber posted 08-03-2006 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bibit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, this is good information, thank you all!
I need many more sterling/silverplate books!
Here is an example of what I am trying to determine. Say the company is Oneida, they made Sterling and Plate. I understand that over the years the markings may change and that a sterling piece will always be marked "sterling" but will the logo be the same on the plate and the sterling pieces? or...will I need to learn different markings for plate and sterling?

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