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gerard

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2009 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gerard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[26-1897]

Pics show bowl- 10 inches diam by 2.5 inches tall- and hallmarks I would be pleased if you experts could identify for me age, content (sterling/plate?), anything else?

I am interested in having these questions answered to determine if i should destroy this bowl - cut it up and remake into new item. (it has some severe edge damage) If it some rare piece I will keep it in my collection - if run of the mill I may cut it up into bracelets.


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Gerard


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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2009 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Welocme to the forum. Can you tell us a bit about yourself and your interests in silver collecting?

The piece seems to be silverplate, since the marks are not those for sterling. The number is probably a registry (British equivalent of patent no.) or stock numer. Since plate does not carry date letters, it is diffiuclt to say how old this is. Perhaps someone on the forum with greater knowledge of plate can identify rough time frame by style of the piece.

Tom

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agphile

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2009 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The use of a crown to mark electro-plated nickel silver was prohibited in 1896 (too similar to a sterling silver hallmark) so your bowl will pre-date that, but not by very much I would think.

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2209patrick

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2009 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2209patrick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are American silverplate marks.
The Pairpoint Corporation, New Bedford, Massachusetts.
Founded in 1880. Produced electroplated wares until about 1930.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 08-20-2009 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Patrick nails it: Pairpoint. Specifically, their Sheffield Reproduction Line. Made probably from about 1900 to 1929. The dies were assumed by the Rockford Silver Company which lasted into the mid 50's. Then SL & GL Rogers, division of Oneida assumed Rockford's dies. Which vanished into the Oneida ('we don't keep records') mists. It may even now be appearing in pewter, Oneida likes to recycle.

In its day, this was a fairly popular bowl. I have seen a number of them. It also comes in sizes. The holes can be used to arrange flowers. Lutheran 'bring a hot dish to pass' events frequently featured this dish with a ring of flowers and scrumptious tuna noodle hot dish inside. Which really impressed my 8 year old self. This is a very common piece.

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gerard

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iconnumber posted 08-21-2009 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gerard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for all the info - you folks are amazing!

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agphile

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iconnumber posted 08-21-2009 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps I should clarify that my earlier comment about the ban on the use of the crown on EPNS relates to Britain - I had not cottoned on to the fact that this was an American made item. It would have been illegal to retail it in Britain with those marks but I suppose the maker did not need to worry about exports given the size of the American market.

I was puzzled that it looked like a 20th century piece rather than something I would have expected from the late 19th but all is now clear.

[This message has been edited by agphile (edited 08-21-2009).]

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Polly

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I'm very concerned about the flowers getting into the tuna casserole and the tuna casserole getting all over the flowers.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 08-22-2009 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fun would come in using edible flowers.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 08-22-2009 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was on the frozen prarie of the Midwest. They probably were fake flowers. Maybe paper that could be thrown away, maybe plastic that could go thru the dishwasher. The cover of crushed potato chips was the real highlight of the dish.

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