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Jeanette_Dunwoody

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iconnumber posted 12-18-2008 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanette_Dunwoody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey All,

I'm cleaning out an estate and have found this teapot. It is marked Standard Watch Co. - Quadruple - 4.



Also, where should I go to appraiser it since I can't have that question answered here? smile

Thanks!

JD

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adelapt

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iconnumber posted 12-19-2008 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adelapt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Jeanette,

Welcome to the Silver Forums. As you noted, appraisals can't be done through the Forums. However, in the notes you gain access to when reading the big yellow "Please read before you post" bit at the top with the flashing wording, there is a link to information about contacting an appraiser.

Based on your very good photos though, the teapot looks to be a late 19th/early 20th century electroplated Britannia metal model. Someone who can identify the maker could put a more precise date on it, but it is unlikely to make much different to what is likely to be a pretty low valuation.

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 12-19-2008 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

I've found a "Standard Watch o", incorporated in 1885. The first location of the factory was in Jersey City, New Jersey.

First production 1885-1929. The company was sold in 1903 to the Keystone Case Company.

Production until 1929. Seven million watches were made and only 1 teapot?, so I hope it's a unique piece made by this company. wink Perhaps the teapot has been used at the company for the board? Can someone explain the meaning of quadruple 4?

Perhaps the teapot is made before 1885 and is made by the firm which started corporation with Standard Watch & Co.

And what did Keystone Case produced.

I hope this reaction will help!

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 12-19-2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi and welcome to the forum. You are correct that this is not a place where an appraisal can be requested, but please also note that the prohibition is actually much braoder than that - it is also not the place to ask questions to research something that you intend to sell. From your explanation about cleaning out an estate and indication that you would like to find a place to get an appraisal it sounds as if you are doing some research with an intention to sell this.

The best places to find an appraiser would be to look in the telephone directory of your city for prefessional appraisers - most cities have several listed. Another place to do your preliminary research would be to go on one or more of the big internet auction sites and look up similar objects that have actually sold. Starting bids or items that did not sell at the opening bid are of no value in this exercise - only look at similar objects after the auctions have ended and where the object actually sold.

Regards,
Kimo

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 12-22-2008 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sincerely doubt that Standard Watch Company made your teapot. Most likely it was made up in quantity with this mark for the SWC. The usual suspects in this period are Tufts and Aurora. The shape and form are in the period beginning in about 1875. These seem to have been sold into the early 1920's.

Marks on silverplate are frequently about how an item was sold. Most likely this was a premium item, given to dealers and representative of SWC as an incentive or prize.

What I find intrigueing about the pot is the decoration, which looks like brite cutting. It is very crude and amateurish, and apparently done at a later date.

There are three things to look for in a teapot:

Does it leak? Leaking is not a good thing.

Does it pour gracefully in an arc or dribble all over the place?

Is the screen at the juncture of the spout and body intact? This prevents tea leaves from getting into the cup. Very important criteria.

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FredZ

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iconnumber posted 12-22-2008 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeanette,

It looks to my eye that the spout stops abruptly in a squared off fashion. Most spouts tend to have a more graceful termination. Perhaps someone has filed it flat. Any alteration would be a detriment to the desirability to a collector.

Best,
Fred

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argentum1

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iconnumber posted 12-23-2008 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for argentum1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeannette

You mention only 'cleaning out an estate' and I do not recall your asking for a dollar value appraisal but rather where to get an appraisal.

I myself have cleaned out a few estates (of relatives). Dorothy Rainwater has a good marks book that would probably answer the 'who' question. I just checked her book and there is no entry so you might try the internet.

May I suggest you nose around antiques malls and or shops which might give a general idea of value but remember dealers have to make a profit which means their asking price is more than the items 'real value'. Or you could go the professional appraisal route and spend more than the item is probably worth. A point I try to remember is, if the appraiser charges a percentage of their appraised value I would run like crazy. I trust, more or less, the one who charges a set fee.

You know right away that it is plated from the word 'quadruple'.

So good luck with your search.

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