posted 09-19-2007 05:39 PM            

Today I just bought this little sugar spoon,
reading the information from it, I became curious about the back ground information from this one.

I started with research and was surprised about all information. I just read some articles about it. The sugar spoon belonged or was named after a steam ship called : "SS STRATHEDEN".

I hope that I'm right that the company was P&O, and that this ship transported and traveled between for instance Malta - Australia and is used for transport Australian soldiers, nurses and goods in WW2
to England.

I don't know which year this ship is made and if this ship ended his history?

My question about this (I think) silvered spoon is :

Can this spoon be used on board of this ship or did somebody bought it in a souvenir shop on board or in a harbor city where this ship belonged (somewhere in Australia?).

I send also a photo of the ship.

Greetings Silverhunter.

posted 09-19-2007 07:15 PM            

• SS Stratheden -- 1937 -- 1967
  
• Steamship 24000 tons
  
• One of P&O's best known ships for many years was the 24,000-ton Stratheden, which reopened the company's Australian service after the Second World War.
  
• She was in a class of five vessels which were called the "Strath'' liners.
  
• Stratheden went from Vickers Armstrong in Barrow and was launched June 10, 1937.
  
• She had a speed of about 19 knots. There was room for 527 first-class and 453 tourist-class passengers. There were 653 crew members.
  
• Her service in war was as a troopship she carried 149,687 servicemen and civilians and steamed nearly half a million miles.

In 1967, she was known as the Marianna Latsi. 2 years later she was broken up for scrap.

Jersey

posted 09-20-2007 05:22 AM            

I think like Fredz reaction, it will be a souvenir spoon perhaps bought on board, or somewhere in a souvenir shop. I didn't find a number or letter on it, so it will be no spoon used on board I think!

So in a record time the solution is gaven and many thanks for that.

posted 09-20-2007 11:00 AM            

Bad quality and far to high prices.

But nice to look between all that silver, once I saw a jat (Hebrew silver article) also possible for to buy, but it was a antique dealer who rent a little stand.

I just gonna look at the British television program called flog it, and I also can learn from that program. I don't have a satellite receiver I think in the USA they also show this kind of programs.

Perhaps is this spoon will be showed by a collector.

Greetings,
Silverhunter.

posted 09-22-2007 09:32 AM            

The best known ones - the two versions of "Antiques Roadshow" are perhaps the ones that many knowledgable silver collectors find the most silly since their experts seem to want to provide sensational values that typically do not reflect the actual values. Proclaiming incredibly high values that do not reflect the market values makes for exciting television but it does not really help people who would like to know what to expect when they go to sell their things. One trick they often like to use is to give a high value and then quietly say 'insurance value'. Insurance values are designed to be double what a customer would be charged for something in the most expensive antique shops in the most expensive cities of the world. If you were to turn off the television camera and ask that expert what they personally would pay for it they would offer somewhere between 10 to 25 percent of the value they gave. If you want to learn about values, you need to watch the shows where the objects are sold in real auctions, and even then you should realize that the prices there might be slightly high since the bidders in those auctions know they are on television and might be bidding a little extra to get on camera. The most honest places to go to learn about real values are auctions in your own area to learn local values, and the large internet auction site to learn world wide values.

posted 09-22-2007 02:26 PM            

Title: Sotheby's founded 1744. The Jaime Ortiz-Patino Collection. 18th century French and English Silver. New York Thursday, may 21,1992. It's founded between a lot of books, but I think someone who are more interested about these kind of silver work can be helped with it.

Please give your opinion about this, it's for instance possible to give my e-mail address for this transaction. I will send it for free, so if you are interested?

posted 09-22-2007 05:22 PM            

I've read your reaction twice. I understand what you mean. On a auction the bids can be done by experts or antiquarians, or people just learning about auction. One thing is for sure , you need at least two experts/antiquarians how will let rise the price.

What you told about the television programs I recognized that by seeing the shows in auction room/hall. Some prices slowly bids by 5,- or fast bids by hundred. Here in Holland we have only one program called:

between art& second hand junk (free translated). Also there are experts in this program who give good expertise about articles people bring in the program.

I have never been to a auction, but in the future I will go.

Don't rise my hands, hold on my head in one position, don't wave to somebody that's gonna be a hard time for me.

Thanks for your reaction,
silverhunter.