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gmanp

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2008 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gmanp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi,

Sorry I neglected to introduce myself but I am gmanp, I live in the Midwest and I love anything old and the history behind it this is one of the reasons I started to collect silver.

Can anyone know anything about a company called Maschmeyer, Richards Silver Co.?

I have a small bowl I picked up at a flea market and can find no info on it,the bottom has the company name,[above] the word Maryland, and the number 1695 on it but that is all, nothing saying whether it is plated or not or when it was made.

Please help any info welcome.

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2008 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the forum!

An internet search reveals that your item is a product of a St Louis, MO import and wholesale company that was in business from 1915 to 1922.

Someone else may have more to add to this. My references are not in front of me right now.

Good luck with your research.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2008 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally, on modern era American objects such as yours when it does not say "sterling" or "925" or other terms that refer to silver content then you can pretty much count on it being silver plated.

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gmanp

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2008 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gmanp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree Kimo but I'm not sure this piece is American since they were importers, I scratched a fairly deep scratch beneath the rim and it still appears solid, if I knew more of the company I think I could find the actual manufacturer and where and when it first appeared.

Thanks for replying.
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bascall

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iconnumber posted 05-22-2008 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 1913 Goulds Blue Book for the city of St Louis shows Maschmeyer-Richards Silver Co at 203 Carleton Bldg, 308 N 6th.

The 1914 Gould's St. Louis red book lists Augustus Maschmeyer as president and Darius P Richards as the secretary/treasurer of Maschmeyer-Richards Silver Co.

Unfortunately, whether your item was imported or not, the chances of it being solid silver if it does not have marks to indicate silver purity are very slim. You will hear this same thing over and over. Good luck with it anyway.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 05-23-2008 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silver plating over nickel alloy is a very common construction. When you go through the silver, the underlying base metal still looks silver-like.

Imported silver will have the silver purity markings of the country of origin if it is solid silver. In the US the silver markings have been a major marketing point which is why if you do not see in on modern era silver (the past 100 or more years) you can be pretty certain it is plated. On foreign made silver clear markings are not only a marketing requirement but in most countries a legal requirement that is tightly controlled by governments to prevent fraud.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 05-24-2008 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A picture would help a great deal. Prior to WW1, US companies dominated the silver industry worldwide. There does not seem to be much silver that can be shown to have been imported before then. More likely the piece was made by a major maker and then private labled for the St Louis firm. Additionally, Mermod Jacquard King made plated wares for a long period. And I have seen a few other even more obscure makers on pieces also marked St Louis. AFAIK there is no research on ST Louis silver manufacturers, as opposed to makers. Pictures would really help us delve into the subject.

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Kalikiss

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iconnumber posted 05-31-2008 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kalikiss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
U. S. National Stamping Act - as of 1906 all sterling or coin silver pieces must be stamped.

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dragonflywink

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iconnumber posted 05-31-2008 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More correctly, the Stamping Act of 1906 states that all pieces marked, tagged, labeled, etc. as sterling or coin (or various gold finenesses), made here or imported for sale, must meet the standards, there is no requirement that they must be marked. As of 1962, if an item is marked, there must also be a registered trademark present. Despite the official laws and penalties, without a U.S. assay office, it remains basically an "honor system" - that said, wouldn't really be in a maker's interest to produce a solid silver item and not mark it as such.

~Cheryl

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Kalikiss

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iconnumber posted 05-31-2008 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kalikiss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. I knew that, but was just trying to answer the question. I didn't want to appear as a "know it all" since I certainly don't. But, I will try and be make future posts more complete.

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