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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-06-2011 08:37 PM
  
[26-2097] Have been looking around here and I have found a lot of useful information. but I do need a little help. I just inherited a few Silver spoons from my mother that used to be my Grandmother's. I have figured out a few of the makers and country of origin. But i need a little help on 3 of them, if you guys are willing. I am sure 2 are from Norway which makes since that's where that side of the family came from in the 1860's to the US. So here are some pictures any info would be helpful. Sorry for the coloring on the pics haven't figured out all the setting on the camera yet. After reading the tutorial for picture uploading, I also uploaded the full size pictures to a web page if you want to see them better along with pics of the spoons Thanks in advance IP: Logged |
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Hose_dk Posts: 400 |
posted 01-07-2011 01:23 AM
first is norway (n) then Magnus Aase from Bergen (bergen=the 7 balls) nm is Norsk Mønster - Norwegian Pattern - not name of the item but a general description of a series of different patterns. 830S = silver [This message has been edited by Hose_dk (edited 01-07-2011).] IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 01-07-2011 01:37 AM
The second is Wood & Hughes and the third is Gorham. Both are American manufacturers. [This message has been edited by bascall (edited 01-07-2011).] IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 01-07-2011 08:56 AM
To add a bit more to the above identifications (yes, only one, not two, of the three spoons is from Norway): the first is 84 percent silver and 16 percent other metals, the second and third are 92.5 percent silver and 7.5 percent other metals. The date on the third spoon is simply the date the Gorham company was granted a patent on that particular silverware pattern - it does not stand for the actual year that particular piece of flatware which can be decades later. Could you please post some photos of the overall spoons and closeups of any interesting features on them such as designs on the handles? This forum is a place where we are happy to share our knowledge of silver and not only are photos essential for identification, but they are also part of the mutual enjoyment and education of everyone who participates in this forum. Also, while the markings on your silverware look perfectly fine, sometimes forgers apply spurious markings to objects (sadly, there are many examples of fakes and forgeries in the silver world) and an essential part to any accurate identification is to be able to look at the entire object to see if the markings are appropriate to the design of the object itself. Thanks, IP: Logged |
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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-07-2011 09:50 AM
Thanks for the info so far. I did make a small webpage for larger pictures, guess the link was a NO-NO in the first post (sorry). Here are smaller pics of the spoons in order as listed above. Thanks again It's always nice to learn about the history of some of the stuff that's been in the family for generations. IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 01-07-2011 10:18 AM
The Wood & Hughes spoon is a pattern called Undine. Looks like some sort of nice, small serving spoon. How big is it? All three are lovely. Your great grandmother had good taste. IP: Logged |
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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-07-2011 10:25 AM
The small serving spoon is about 6 1/2" long the spoon part is 3 1/2" and I don't have a clue what you would serve with it. Way to small for pie or cake. IP: Logged |
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denimrs Posts: 102 |
posted 01-07-2011 11:51 AM
And, the Gorham piece is in the Raphael pattern. IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 01-07-2011 05:25 PM
The Norwegian server (cake? cheese?) is the Theodor Olsens pattern Anitra, designed by Trygve Eriksen in 1937 - Magnus Aase and his brother bought Olsens in the early 1900s, explaining the use of the mark. Anitra is still in production so far as I know. The Undine piece looks to me like either a jelly spoon or large sugar spoon. If the Raphael piece is around six inches, believe it's a sugar spoon. ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-07-2011 08:09 PM
The 2 bigger spoons, I am pretty sure are just regular serving spoons. 1 is 8 1/2" the other is 9". The one other one I have as a P. Thoresen with it looks like a 19 1/4 after his name. That one is just a nice plain spoon. Again I want to say thanks for the help. [This message has been edited by Brkdnc (edited 01-07-2011).] [This message has been edited by Brkdnc (edited 01-07-2011).] IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 01-07-2011 08:34 PM
Color me confused as to the which pieces are which sizes..... ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-07-2011 10:14 PM
How about this Gorham at top Wood & Hughes on bottom And of course the cheese/cake(?) server is in the middle. IP: Logged |
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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-07-2011 10:30 PM
This is the P. Thoresen I mentioned above. I Figured this one out myself IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 01-08-2011 12:35 AM
Hehe, was just confused because you responded to Polly's question regarding the size of the Undine piece with the size of the Anitra cheese server, if I'd paid closer attention, would have noticed the length of the "spoon part"..... Glad that you figured out the Thoresen piece - but might mention that the "19¼" you mentioned is actually "13¼", indicating that the spoon's fineness is 13¼ lödig (13¼/16 = roughly 828/1000). ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 01-08-2011 07:12 PM
I see. The spoons are bigger than I was imagining. Nice pieces--you can serve me cake and berries with them any time you like! IP: Logged |
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Brkdnc Posts: 7 |
posted 01-08-2011 11:39 PM
Might take you up on that sometime  IP: Logged |
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