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bitpeg Posts: 4 |
posted 07-02-2011 11:11 PM
  
I have an early English Coffee Pot.. It has a bakelite handle and is missing the bakelite piece on the lid... underneath is..W H & S B P.. also near the edge is W.P.. My mother said it was her mums sisters.. I am assuming it would be somewhere around the very early 1900's.. Thanks in advance for your help dating this piece IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 07-03-2011 10:40 AM
Hi Bitpeg and welcome to the forum. Could you please take a peek at the text in the yellow box near the top of the page. It asks for people who are new to the forum to take a moment to introduce themselves by responding to a couple of questions. We are unlike most internet forums as we are just small group of people who enjoy discussing silver. A short self introduction with a comment on why you are asking your question is a way to get people here comfortable and willing to respond. Warm regards, IP: Logged |
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bitpeg Posts: 4 |
posted 07-04-2011 06:50 AM
I have been collecting silverware for a number of years and am a very keen collector.... Thanks Bryan IP: Logged |
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bitpeg Posts: 4 |
posted 07-06-2011 04:42 AM
 ..Hope this works..Sorry for the hassle IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4121 |
posted 07-06-2011 08:51 AM
William Hutton & Sons of Sheffield England. Began electroplating around 1843 and continued for many years. After 1900 they added a crossed arrow mark, so this was probably made just before that. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 07-06-2011 09:49 AM
As Wev says, the WH&S stands for William Hutton & Sons of Sheffield England, and the date of your very elegantly designed pot is sometime between 1843 and 1900. The BP on marking stands for Britannia Plate. This means that it is silver plating on top of a silver color nickel alloy. The number 5 is just the stock number used by the company and their dealers for inventory and ordering. I can not see any scratched numbers in your photos, but typically these are simply notations that either the retail shop or the subsequent owners have applied for their own purposes. I can narrow the down the date slightly to sometime between 1850 and 1900 given the MP/A marking. The MP stands for Magneto Plating which is slightly different plating process than regular Electro Plating due to the way the electrical current was created - it was by spinning a coiled wire through a strong magnetic field rather than just taking power directly from a large battery. This process was invented around 1849 to 1850 and was made commericial after then as one of the two electroplating processes. It is a minor technical detail with no real importance, but I think it is interesting. The A under the MP in that last cartouche stands for the quality of silver plating. There were about 6 levels of quality (thickness) of silver plating on English silver plated wares of this time period - A1, A, B1, B, C, D with A1 being the thickest and D the thinest. These standards reflected approximately (they are not exact) how many grams of silver that would be used to plate 12 spoons or forks, or a comparable amount of base metal in a pot or other object. A1 was about 32 grams of silver and D was about 6 grams of silver with the others proportionately between. Your pot is the second best quality as shown by the marking of the A standard. Even the thickest layer of silver plating does not amount to very much silver, but thicker layers are nice since they extend the time the object will keep a full coating of silver and looking good before it wears through. The word Warrented simply means that the manufacturer guarantees the pot to be plated with silver at the A grade. You do need to be gentle with polishing on any silver plated objects - even the ones with the thicker coating of silver of course. And you never want to use abrasive polishes or try buffing it on an electric buffing machine as they can cut through silver plating very quickly. What is the size of your pot? You call it a coffee pot but it looks like it may be a tea pot by its design. Back then a proper hostess would typically have a tea pot, a coffee pot and a chocolate pot along with her other pieces in her full sized service set. Of course these days it does not matter much as one can use any kind of pot for any kind of refreshment, but back then it would have been important to use the correct pot for the beverage served just like it would have been important to use the correct piece of flatware for the food served. [This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 07-06-2011).] IP: Logged |
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