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rafism

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iconnumber posted 04-27-2012 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rafism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have acquired this new sterling dish which is in the style of GJ/ Paglia but can't figure out the maker, any comments?



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iconnumber posted 04-27-2012 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read yellow box directly above. Follow directions therein.

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iconnumber posted 04-28-2012 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, good heavens! I have this tray--it was my grandmother's! (I mean, obviously, that I have another example of it. Mine is more oval.) All I know about it myself is that Grandma used it with her Jensen cream and sugar set--I never managed to identify the maker. After Rafism answers the questions in the yellow box I will post photos, and I hope that anyone who knows anything about it will share what they know.

Rafism, good job with the photos. Please tell us a bit about your interest in silver and reassure us that this is not pre-sale research.

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iconnumber posted 05-01-2012 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rafism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My name Is Rafi Sm. I was once employed at GJ and oversaw visuals and training in NYC. While learing to train, I have learn to fall in love with the designs. After leaving my employment at GJ, I started to collect some hollowware made by the danish maker: now to the point of obsession. I recently purchased this and was sold to me in the style of Jensen. However this mark I can't seem to locate in any manuals that I looked in. Any information would be helpful.

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iconnumber posted 05-02-2012 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragonflywink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A year or so ago, on another forum, a contributor referenced the recent auction of a four-piece set bearing a strong resemblance to Jensen's #2 Blossom tea service, stating that the "H" mark like yours belonged to Hamilton Silver Co. Unfortunately, there was no mark shown or described in the catalog, and the poster never returned to clarify their post, and I never took the time to delve any further myself.

Quoting the catalog, "SILVER AND IVORY COFFEE SERVICE BY HAMILTON, NY. Four-piece service in "Lotus", designed in the "Jensen Style", retailed by Macy"s during the 1940"s. Four bulbous vessels with fluted paw feet and ivory handles, blossom finial. 10" coffee pot, 6 1/2" tea pot, 4 1/4" covered sugar bowl, 3" cream pitcher 74.3 OT. Note: This information provided by the daughter of Francis Nelson, silver buyer for Macy"s through the 1940"s. "Lotus" pattern Spot-hammered is identified as #64; smooth, as in lot 1572, is identified as #65."

Have seen several Scandinavian-inspired pieces marked "HAMILTON", but most of their production seemed to be rather ordinary mid-20th century sterling, often with weighted bases. I do have a nice, heavy melon-form sugar & creamer with this stylized "H" mark, and have run across more pedestrian sets with the same cast handles as mine, bearing the common "HAMILTON" mark - might give some credence to the Hamilton attribution.

Generally see the "HAMILTON" (occasionally found with an added "SILVER CO. INC.") marks on sterling identified as belonging to an early 20th century company, Hamilton Silver Mfg. Co., noted in Rainwater as acquired by Benedict and moved to Syracuse in 1912; but haven't really seen any indication that they made anything other than silverplate. Suspect a company that was active in the 1940s-50s, Hamilton Silver Co., Inc., 5 E. 16th St., New York. NY, was a more likely manufacturer of the sterling pieces.

~Cheryl

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Polly

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Cheryl, as usual, has provided much more useful information than I can.

However, here are photos of my grandmother's similar tray, with close ups of the handle and the marks, and a shot showing it with her Jensen cream and sugar set (and two pairs of Jensen sugar tongs). I believe Grandma bought these items in the 1960s or earlier, probably in New York City or New Jersey.

The tray is nice and heavy and well made by hand.

I also have a compote with the same mark. It's also in the Jensen style, but it's thin and not nearly as well made. I bought it in an online auction from a blurry picture a number of years ago, assuming it would be similar in quality to Grandma's tray, but it really isn't. Win some, lose some. I'll try to post pictures of it later.

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