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yergil35 Posts: 3 |
posted 12-29-2012 07:12 AM
  
  Had this vase in the family for many years. I went online and guessed it is a Shiebler. Welcome to the Silver Salon Forums. Also please read the yellow box (above) at the start of this page and provide the requested intro/background. IP: Logged |
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yergil35 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-01-2013 01:45 AM
This piece was given to my mother by my grandmother in 1965. My grandmother was from Romania and she came to the US in 1945. I always wondered about the history of this piece whether it was from Europe or not. I finally took photos and looked online and decided it could be a shiebler piece. Was wondering if anyone could back me up and tell me a little more about what it could be for etc. IP: Logged |
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bascall Posts: 1629 |
posted 01-01-2013 10:10 AM
This description is from one of the most familiar auction houses:
height 10 1/4in. (25.9cm) 39oz 15dwt (1238g) gross A medallion and/or engraving might go a long way toward explaining the ultimate purpose for the cup. IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 01-01-2013 10:26 AM
The marking indicates it was made by the George Shiebler Company of Brooklyn, New York. This was a silver manufacturing company that was created in 1876 and went out of business in 1910 when they went bankrupt and were bought out by the Gorham Silver Company. They produced a large amount of flatware, holloware, novelty items, souvenier spoons, and jewelry. There are some beliefs that for a while Gorham continued manufacturing some items with the Shiebler dies and markings they acquired in the take-over. The numbers under the winged S and word STERLING are just model numbers used for internal inventory and marketing purposes by the company and their retailers. What you have is called a tyg, or also called a loving cup. There are some other names for this style of cup as well. The purpose for the three handles is for it to be a communal drinking cup where it can be passed from one person to the next always with at least one handle being free for the next person to grab. As you can imagine they were very unsanitary and transmitted diseases but that was before people knew much better. The handles on yours appear to be either real or imitation stag horns (I cannot tell from your photo if they are real or imitation) which is a commonly seen style for these since one of their common uses was at dinners or banquets or in taverns where the drink was being shared by everyone at the table and often wildlife such as venison was part of the menu. Perhaps others here with more expertise and access to old Shiebler catalogs can fix a more specific date for your object but my initial thought is this might be somewhere around 1900 to 1905, give or take, and is trying to replicate a style from a couple of hundred years before that but that is just a guess and I would be happy to be corrected. How your grandmother obtained it I do not know, other than one should never fall into the trap of thinking that grandparents or great grandparents stopped acquiring things when they were young or that every thing they owned was acquired in the area in which they were born or lived. People have always acquired things from all kinds of sources including old used things from many places and times until the day they pass away. [This message has been edited by Kimo (edited 01-01-2013).] IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 01-01-2013 11:22 AM
Yergil, Happy new year! I believe Scott is looking for reassurance that you are asking about the piece because you're curious about its history and its place in your family, not because you plan to use the information to help you sell it, which would be against forum policy. Yes, that is a Shiebler mark. It's a lovely Art Nouveau vase or loving cup, I'd say from the 20 years surrounding 1900. With those antler handles, I imagine it might have been some sort of hunting prize or sporting trophy. Is there an inscription? IP: Logged |
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yergil35 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-01-2013 04:28 PM
Actually Polly I have been long fascinated by this vase. I now live in Melbourne Australia and my husband visited my parents two weeks ago. I remembered to ask him to photograph the vase finally!! so I can get some answers  IP: Logged |
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