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ElfKat

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iconnumber posted 04-11-2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElfKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this spoon at a garage sale for $3.00 and I think it's Roman... anyone know anything?

I think it's fairly high grade silver (quick and dirty test -- put in very hot water to cover at least 2/3 of the spoon and feel the finial after 20-30 seconds, anything made of fairly high grade silver will be almost too hot to handle very quickly... this one passed that test! Nothing made of pewter will).

It's just over 7-1/2" long with the bowl measuring 1-3/16w x 1-3/4l x 7/16"deep and weighs almost 30 grams on my little electronic scale. I don't think that bend near the finial is original, I've seen photos of Roman spoons with this kind of button end but the bowl shape is a bit weird...

I collect American souvenir spoons and this fascinated me!

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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agphile

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iconnumber posted 04-12-2014 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's either Roman or imitation Roman. Difficult to be certain from photos (and not always easy to tell even with the spoon in hand). Roman spoons come with quite a variety of bowl shapes but the bowl and the offset between bowl and handle do look a bit more crudely made than I might have expected.

There are quite a few imitations about, some outright fakes and some originally sold more honestly as souvenirs or the like. To be certain I think you would need to consult a museum with a good antiquities department.

My problem is that when a spoon is a good match for a well documented Roman original I sometimes suspect it may just be a copy. And then when I cannot find a good match, as here, I wonder whether it is a work of fiction. Always best to be suspicious so that you can only be pleasantly surprised later.

Anyhow, an interesting find and a bargain even if a fake - though I hope it is not.

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Kimo

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I agree with Agfile that it is not possible to be sure with just an internet photo, but if I were to render an opinion based on this photo alone I would suggest that it is a fake or a reproduction made for tourists. My reasoning is that the condition appears to be far too good with little or no wear. I could be wrong of course and that is why you would need to have someone who is a serious expert in Roman silver and spoons look at it in person.

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