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oakcircle Posts: 5 Registered: Apr 2010	posted 04-11-2015 11:14 PM My wife and I collect mid-nineteenth century coin silver holloware, but today, have purchased a couple of pieces of flatware in the William K. Vanderbilt pattern by Tiffany. I am wanting to find out more history about this pattern than I can find through [online searching]. I would like to know if anyone could tell me things like: How many pieces were made? In which of the Vanderbilt residences was this used? Where is the bulk of the set now? I would appreciate any info/history you can provide. Many thanks. IP: Logged
park1226 Posts: 102 Registered: Jun 2005	posted 04-12-2015 02:14 PM Wm Hood's book, Tiffany Silver Flatware has a 3 page section on this service with pictures and a sampling of some of the pieces made. Most of the information provided deals with the design. He states in the text, "There are no data on the original size and composition of this service. We have secondhand information that the service is largely intact, still in the possession Of Vanderbilt family heirs". IP: Logged
oakcircle Posts: 5 Registered: Apr 2010	posted 04-12-2015 06:45 PM quote: Originally posted by park1226: Wm Hood's book, Tiffany Silver Flatware has a 3 page section on this service with pictures and a sampling of some of the pieces made. Most of the information provided deals with the design. He states in the text, "There are no data on the original size and composition of this service. We have secondhand information that the service is largely intact, still in the possession Of Vanderbilt family heirs". Thanks for the info. I've looked for a copy of the book, you reference, and I am surprised that they are so expensive. IP: Logged
Kimo Posts: 1627 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 04-12-2015 10:33 PM I understand that Tiffany made 10 different special order patterns for various wealthy families. I have read that the pattern they made for John MacKay was produced using a half of a ton of silver that was sent to Tiffany by MacKay for this service. That would be a very large amount of flatware. My guess is that the Vnaderbilt pattern would likely have been of a size on that order of magnitude. IP: Logged
park1226 Posts: 102 Registered: Jun 2005	posted 04-14-2015 09:00 AM Carpenter's book on Tiffany flatware mentions that Tiffany charged Mr. Vanderbilt $10,000 up front in 1884 just to produce the dies for his service before before they would start production. That would be approximately $240,000 today. The Mackay service mentioned in an earlier post was for 24 persons and consisted of 1,250 pieces of which 918 were flatware related. It took 200 men two years to complete (ref. Hood). IP: Logged
oakcircle Posts: 5 Registered: Apr 2010	posted 05-02-2015 12:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Kimo: I understand that Tiffany made 10 different special order patterns for various wealthy families. I have read that the pattern they made for John MacKay was produced using a half of a ton of silver that was sent to Tiffany by MacKay for this service. That would be a very large amount of flatware. My guess is that the Vnaderbilt pattern would likely have been of a size on that order of magnitude. Thanks for the info! IP: Logged

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