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ghoti Posts: 10 |
posted 05-13-2015 03:14 AM
  
Hi everyone, It's me again... This time I have a question about a 19th-century Austrian goblet I found. Below are images of the goblet, the hallmark (which identifies the item as being assayed in Vienna in 1859 as 13 loth), and the maker's mark. It is re the latter that I'd appreciate some assistance... Does anyone recognize the "MW" maker's mark? If so, any and all information about this maker would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, David IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 05-13-2015 03:48 PM
I cannot make out the first letter (possibly two conjoined?), but I do not believe it is an M. IP: Logged |
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ghoti Posts: 10 |
posted 05-13-2015 05:15 PM
The only other letter it can think of that the first letter could be is an H. I don't think it is two conjoined letters, because the space between this letter and the W is so wide and clear. Can anyone else assist? David IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 05-14-2015 06:56 AM
It is so worn it is hard to tell but going by the overall shape of the mark and the little protrusions on the corners my thought is that is could be an M or H or K or N or X or Z with maybe H or M being the more likely? Have you tried looking at it in different lights such as with a strong light coming from the side so as to create any possible shadows from slight differences in relief? Or perhaps putting a piece of tissue paper on it and very lightly rubbing the tissue with the side of a pencil led to make a rubbing of it? Or putting a tiny bit of flour on it and wiping most but not all of it off with your finger tip so as to leave a trace of flour in any lower areas? On very worn or weakly struck marks such as this one even these techniques do not always work, but sometimes you can get lucky and tease out the mark with one of them. IP: Logged |
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ghoti Posts: 10 |
posted 05-14-2015 10:56 AM
Thanks for the input, Kimo. Unfortunately the surface of the relief is completely even and flat, so the pencil lead and flour methods you suggested won't work in this case. I agree the letter could possibly be a K or an X, but we can rule out N and Z because these two letters lack the serifs in all four corners that the letter in the mark has (and that do exist in the letters M, H, K and Z). An X is doubtful, simply because it's so rare as an initial. This leaves us with the options of M, H and K, with my very close inspection (using a loupe in direct sunlight) pointing to M as the probable culprit. (Also, statistically M is much more common than H and K as an initial.) Anyone else have any ideas who "MW" or "HW" or "KW" may be? Thanks again, IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 05-16-2015 02:39 AM
I would not quickly rule out K as uncommon since there are some really common first names atarting with K in a German speaking country like Austria such as Karl, Kurt or Konrad. On the other hand there are also some really common H names such as Hans, Heinrich, or Herman. IP: Logged |
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