posted 12-01-2016 01:48 AM            

It is nice to hear that you are a descendant of John Phillip Benjamin Sadtler and his sons and grandsons who carried on his firm until it closed in 1923. Your request for "everything" is a bit on the overly broad side and you might get a better response if you were to ask a specific question. Also it would be great if you might share with us what you already know about these men and their 120 years of manufacturing silver. Also, if you already have some of this company's silver it would be great if you might share it by posting some overall photos and close up photos of the markings, especially as their markings changed over the years as different Sadtlers took ownership. In the meantime, you might do a search on this forum for things that have already been posted such as the following thread:

G. T. Sadtler & Sons of Baltimore

posted 04-09-2022 12:53 PM            

welcome. If you find this horribly-delayed missive, feel free to reach out. Phillip Benjamin was my G-G-G-Grandfather (1771-1860). He immigrated to the States in 1799 and quickly set up his shop in Baltimore, where it would pass along to his 5th descendent (4th son), George Tell Sadtler (my G-G-Grandfather, 1821-1888). George would expand the business into optics, I believe starting around 1850...which is why you are running into glasses. Glasses made for James Madison would be plausible in that he was related to Sadtlers through the Sauerwein line, but with his death being in 1836, that would pre-date GT's involvement, and thus require stronger evidence, as I have seen none through Philip. This just scratches the surface, but hope it helps. Don't see a DM feature here, but happy to talk lineage if you wish.

- Doug Sadtler

posted 04-09-2022 12:56 PM            

welcome. If you find this horribly-delayed missive, feel free to reach out. Phillip Benjamin was my G-G-G-Grandfather (1771-1860). He immigrated to the States in 1799 and quickly set up his shop in Baltimore, where it would pass along to his 5th descendent (4th son), George Tell Sadtler (my G-G-Grandfather, 1821-1888). George would expand the business into optics, I believe starting around 1850...which is why you are running into glasses. Glasses made for James Madison would be plausible in that he was related to Sadtlers through the Sauerwein line, but with his death being in 1836, that would pre-date GT's involvement, and thus require stronger evidence, as I have seen none through Philip. This just scratches the surface, but hope it helps. Don't see a DM feature here, but happy to talk lineage if you wish.

- Doug Sadtler

Roger that. 10 4 good buddy.

To share, I am in the first stage of fleshing out the Calle | Sadtler family histories and genealogies. I don't know much so I cast a wide net. To date, found documents on my mother's (Sadtler) side linking to Philip Benjamin Sadtler and Homburg, Germany origins. On my fathers (Calle) side I know that my grandfather, who came to America from Berlin in 1923 after WWI invented the printing process known as Roto-Graveur which made color printing and mass distribution of magazines we know today possible. Interestingly, it seems both family sides have links in Gottingen, Germany which I am currently exploring. As for photos and marks I only see and know what I Google, bookmark and put in a folder. As I delve into family assets I will certainly be happy to share anything I find. The Baltimore Museum of Art, The Zion Lutheran Church in Baltimore in which PBS was quite active is also helping me dig records. That's about all I know for now though I have found images of eyewear he made for James Madison (?), the receipt, another receipt for watch repair for another founding father, but alas, no examples of jewelry or clockwork yet.

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Originally posted by hmartincalle:
Roger that. 10 4 good buddy.

To share, I am in the first stage of fleshing out the Calle | Sadtler family histories and genealogies. I don't know much so I cast a wide net. To date, found documents on my mother's (Sadtler) side linking to Philip Benjamin Sadtler and Homburg, Germany origins. On my fathers (Calle) side I know that my grandfather, who came to America from Berlin in 1923 after WWI invented the printing process known as Roto-Graveur which made color printing and mass distribution of magazines we know today possible. Interestingly, it seems both family sides have links in Gottingen, Germany which I am currently exploring. As for photos and marks I only see and know what I Google, bookmark and put in a folder. As I delve into family assets I will certainly be happy to share anything I find. The Baltimore Museum of Art, The Zion Lutheran Church in Baltimore in which PBS was quite active is also helping me dig records. That's about all I know for now though I have found images of eyewear he made for James Madison (?), the receipt, another receipt for watch repair for another founding father, but alas, no examples of jewelry or clockwork yet.

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