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Bruce1

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iconnumber posted 07-09-2017 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Smpub Members & Readers,

I'm happy to find this site as you seem to be the most knowledgeable group of collectors I've found online.

I found the site based on doing research for a Napier coffee maker I picked up the other day. Very few examples were shown in Googel, of this design. I look forward to learning more about the history of my Napierian, as well as the different styles from period to period.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-09-2017 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, Bruce! What a beautiful coffee maker. Can you post photos of any marks on the piece?

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 07-09-2017 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a link to an article found on google books about your type of coffee mkr that may be helpful:

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-09-2017 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See also:

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 07-09-2017 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Bruce, for posting the photo of this unusual coffee maker. Have you tried using it yet? You would need to thoroughly clean it first of course, but I think it would be fun to use it, especially when you invite guests over.

Could you please post a nice photo of the markings on it? Are they the same as the one shown in the old Napier post that Scott referenced?

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Bruce1

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2017 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So happy to see the responses here, thanks for the welcoming!

I've done some research and found a thread in this forum...tried to post there, but it seems i'm not able to....

This has no hallmarks or any other markings that I can find. I've seen drawings that were close, but this handle is at 90' or the pots holding the heating side are... pre-spigot, does that make it after 1840, but just a bit?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 07-11-2017 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bruce1:
...tried to post there, but it seems i'm not able to....

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2017 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the piece is European, the marks might be so tiny they look like little dents.

A lot of care went into that apparatus--they even put little ivory insulators in the ring handle.

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Bruce1

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iconnumber posted 07-13-2017 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got a laughable appraisal from "[snip]"

I think you maybe right about the handle being re-poitioned, for some reason. You might be able to see marks where it used to be.

I would expect a silver assay mark of some description or the words sterling accompanied by a maker's mark. I think I am correct in observing some wear on the apparatus, revealing the base metal of brass.

value [snip] at auction.

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Bruce1

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iconnumber posted 07-13-2017 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you for correcting my post, I did not realize the additional restrictions on comments.

I'm just trying to share what I've learned.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 07-15-2017 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We do not discuss values for the many reasons cited in the guidelines laid out when people sign up for this forum. There are many professional appraisers who can be found locally who are capable of providing such to those who wish them and are willing to pay their fees.

It appears that your coffee maker is silver plated rather than sterling, but that does not detract from it being an interesting object in the development of coffee making. This design was invented around 1840 but that does not necessarily mean your example was made that year. From what I can tell so far it seems that this general design was being made pretty much all the way up to around the turn of the century so it could just as easily be 1890 and 1840 or any when in between or even a bit later. The lack of a spout does not mean much since this style was designed to be operated by a syphoning action rather than a pouring one.

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Bruce1

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iconnumber posted 07-15-2017 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone,

Thank you much for your time in looking into this coffee maker and for schooling me edict of this forum. After being a member of many forums, mostly technical in nature, it's been a learning curve here.

Kimo, yes I understand that many of these were not patented, so I thought there were likely many styles. However after much research, the closest match is from Napier himself, such as Bascall posted, without the twist lock on top. (wishful thinking I'm sure ;-)

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 07-15-2017 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you tried using it? How was the coffee?

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Bruce1

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iconnumber posted 08-07-2017 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bruce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm afraid to use it, since I'd want to clean it thoroughly before use. I'm, afraid that I might effect the value via the cleaning.

I'm not even sure I have a complete burner, but did buy some candles ;-)

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