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SilverLiningPockets Posts: 11 |
posted 02-08-2018 02:47 PM
  
Hello again, First off sorry if that title is a little over the top for this forum but this is a time sensitive matter. I have an offer to buy 19 pieces of gorham strasbourg for [snip xxx- Please re-read the Guidelines] bucks (also sorry I don't know if it is gauche or inappropriate to discuss financial matters on this board, please let me know and I will remove that reference immediately) but here is the rub: 1. I'm not sure these are even Strasbourg, it looks like two different patterns 2. the monogram (which was posted later) is pretty obnoxious 3. (this is the main reason I am posting) there is an "o" marked on the back of these. Also the weights given are EXTREMELY low, like 3 oz for 6 tablespoons. That comes out to 15 grams per spoon. That makes no sense. Take a look at the photos, I took screenshots of the listing which is now expired but my best offer was informally accepted. Notice how some of the pieces have more scrolls than others and lack the characteristic "button" of strasbourg. If not though, then what am I looking at? And what is the "O"?? Please help. Thank you so much, I am really trying to amass a decent set of this for the most reasonable price I can manage (I'm sort of a youngin but I just like nice things lol) Thanks again. Like these are two different forks right?? I'm not crazy??
Not only is this monogram very um, large, it also must necessarily be from 1992 correct? But the LAG places these manufactured prior to 1950. Opinions on its tastefulness notwithstanding, does this monogram look contemporary to you? Let me know if you want more information or if any of this is inappropriate IP: Logged |
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SilverLiningPockets Posts: 11 |
posted 02-08-2018 03:43 PM
Sorry Scott!! Thank you for not deleting my whole post!! IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 02-08-2018 04:01 PM
Please re-read the Guidelines IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 02-08-2018 05:39 PM
That would be 1892, not 1992. Someone named Jessie presented the pieces to someone on June 7, 1892, which looks about right for the design, a style popular in the late 19th-early 20th century. The forks look right to me. I can't really see the "o" you're talking about. I find the monogram sweet and age-appropriate myself, but if you dislike it, don't buy the pieces. IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 02-08-2018 08:12 PM
And yes, two of those forks are a different pattern from the others. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 02-08-2018 08:47 PM
O is the date mark that Gorham used for 1882. I thought Gorham only used date marks on hollowware, but they may also have used it on flatware. IP: Logged |
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SilverLiningPockets Posts: 11 |
posted 02-08-2018 10:57 PM
Polly and ahwt thank you so much for replying! I had hoped that it was an older monogram rather than a new one...the seller got back to me and apparently the father in law was quite a collector so here she is with a wealth of sterling to sell. I guess I'll get real personal real fast, I had a boyfriend in college that got me a tiffany bracelet with "love, (his name)" engraved on it so full name monograms FROM the gifter have since given me sort of a bad taste in my mouth. But knowing that it was a gesture that has endured over 100 years, that's sort of special. And I had thought it was '67 '92, it kind of looks like there might be apostrophes there...so a 25th anniversary perhaps? Which is, a silver anniversary! haha. Wow. That is actually kind of cool now that I think about it. Oh and Polly the O's are under the "sterling" mark towards the bottom of that picture. And ahwt, that is what confused me, Strasbourg was patented in 1897 so there's no way it could have been produced in 1882 right? Or did Gorham make things before they were patented? I have so many questions. If I have time tomorrow I'll show you guys photos of my new coffee pot...I'm not all wheeling and dealing. I splurge now and again too. If anyone else can add I would love to learn anything else about this mysterious "o" or mystery pattern! IP: Logged |
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SilverLiningPockets Posts: 11 |
posted 02-08-2018 11:54 PM
Update: the seller sent me a photo of the backside...it's whiting louis xv!! Still don't know what the O is. I think her info is bad re the weights (since her appraiser appraised the whole lot as strasbourg...???) so I am just going to buy it and pray. haha. Thanks again for all of your guys' help!! I will share photos for sure  IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 02-10-2018 11:09 AM
PLEASE re-read the Guidelines IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 02-10-2018 03:06 PM
Hi Silverliningpockets. As Scott has nicely asked, please take a breath and go back and re-read the http://www.smpub.com/ubb/SSF-Guidelines.html The Forum rule you are bumping into regards the requirement for all posts to be of a non-commercial nature, not only in seeking valuations for possible sale but also just as much for seeking advice about a planned or ongoing auction, or on a pending purchase. There are both legal reasons for this requirement but also reasons of not taking advantage of people's good will in their sharing their expertise on the assurance to them that it will not be used in any kind of commercial way. The place to get commercial perspectives on items is to seek out a local appraiser in your area who can provide such information to you. If you have questions or information to share on things that are already owned by you and that you are not planning to sell anytime soon, then those are the kinds of posts that this Forum is made for. I hope this helps. IP: Logged |
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pljohn761 Posts: 6 |
posted 06-19-2018 08:21 PM
Hi - As to the "O" on these forks, I believe it is a code used by Gorham to describe the weight of the pieces. I have Strasbourg forks with an "H" and they are exceptionally heavy. So "H" for Heavy and "O" for (zero weight?)? Just kidding. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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asheland Posts: 935 |
posted 06-20-2018 10:31 AM
The "O" is not the 1882 date letter, most likely it was something to do with the weight of the pieces. Only very large pieces like Narragansett have the holloware date codes on them. IP: Logged |
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