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silverSMITH Posts: 23 |
posted 09-22-2018 01:00 PM
  
 Novelty Hamilton & Diesinger wine bottle holder, Philadelphia, 1880-1899. Recently acquired this Hamilton & Diesinger wine bottle holder (Philadelphia, 1880-1899). Looks like a novelty piece since it possesses all the elements of the game of chess: king, queen, bishop, knight, rook, & pawn. In mint condition. Marked “sterling” & trademark for H & D. Would love to know more, or see other similar novelty pieces. IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 09-23-2018 01:11 PM
How charming! IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 09-27-2018 01:59 AM
I've never seen anything like it. I agree with your thoughts that it is trying to be a chess related object, but the designs are a bit of a hodge-podge. My first thought was that it could have been meant to be a trophy for chess club tournaments because of the plaque area on the side. It is not engraved there so this may have been a trophy that was never awarded. As for it being something that could hold a wine bottle I suppose that is a possibility, but an unawarded chess trophy seems to me to be a possibly greater likelihood given that its design might not fit well at most formal dinner tables. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 09-27-2018 05:22 AM
I think Kimo has it right. IP: Logged |
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 09-27-2018 05:40 AM
Interesting piece as it is in the shape of the Rook, but it has symbols for the Queen, King, Knight and Bishop. Does it work as a wine bottle holder? IP: Logged |
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silverSMITH Posts: 23 |
posted 09-27-2018 10:32 AM
 Wine bottle fits perfectly! This piece is so unusual, I think it would have had very limited appeal to the general public just as an object for retail sale. Perhaps it was intended to be a trophy that had a utilitarian function as a wine bottle holder. If it HAD to be designated one or the other, “trophy” might be most logical, but odd that it was never engraved. Many pieces have a cartouche for monogramming or engraving. Was hoping others might surface that depicted other games or things of interest. Guess I am pack to calling it a novelty! IP: Logged |
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silverSMITH Posts: 23 |
posted 09-27-2018 10:50 AM
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ahwt Posts: 2334 |
posted 09-27-2018 11:25 AM
The base could be the pawn. Is there any sign that the top had a lid? If so it could double as an ice bucket. IP: Logged |
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silverSMITH Posts: 23 |
posted 09-27-2018 12:15 PM
Rim gives no indication of a lid or cover. There is a bit of an interior edge further from the lip that can be attributed to the design of the crenelated top. IP: Logged |
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agleopar Posts: 850 |
posted 09-29-2018 02:57 PM
What a great find. A few thoughts about what this may have looked like and represented to a late Victorian/Edwardian. Chess would have been a regular parlor game. Some, like old uncle Fred, might have pursued it on a serous club level. At the same time Silversmiths were vying for original, unique and different objects in a very crowded field. Also it is still “high Victorian” design - everything and the kitchen sink mentality still is king! All in all I see this as a high street experiment and really not out of the ordinary for the time. Having said that it IS now out of the ordinary and therefor is quite extrodinary! IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 10-02-2018 08:05 PM
Perhaps I am not seeing something from the angle of the photo that has the wine bottle in it, but from what I am seeing I think that the bottle does not go down deeply enough for it to chill all of the wine in a full or near full bottle. Also, it appears in the photo to not have enough space around the circumference of the bottle to accommodate ice all around - it seems a bit too tight for that. While one can use anything for whatever they wish, I am still seeing this as more of a loving cup in it overall design and more likely an unawarded chess trophy. IP: Logged |
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Richard Kurtzman Moderator Posts: 768 |
posted 10-04-2018 04:51 PM
Could this be a celery vase? IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 10-04-2018 05:23 PM
I still think its a trophy but the horses might really appreciate carrots.  IP: Logged |
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