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FernTopiary Posts: 3 Registered: Oct 2018	posted 10-20-2018 05:03 PM Hi, Everyone, I am new here, and my name is Susana. I searched your forum and only found 2 posts on Elgin Silversmiths. I have a set of (what I think are) water goblets with needle etched glass inserts. The picture follows below. The glass in seven of my goblets match (see below), and one doesn't (it has simple etched flowers). I am trying to: 1. Learn to, possibly, date the pieces (I know Elgin acquired Redlich in 1946, but I have seen the same goblets with the Redlich mark). 2. Find if anyone knows the glass manufacturers that collaborated with Elgin and/or Redlich (Could it be Fostoria, Tiffin, etc.?) in order to, possibly, identify the glass pattern. 3. Ask if anyone knows where I could look for replacement liners/inserts (besides Replacements--they don't have them). Anything else you may tell me about the goblets/brand is welcomed! Thank you IP: Logged
Kimo Posts: 1627 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 10-23-2018 03:44 PM Those are nice looking goblets. Do you use them regularly? Getting a replacement for the broken glass in the one of them will not be inexpensive. There are a couple of companies around the world that do such restoration where they hand blow the glass and then hand etch it, but there are many hours of labor by exceptionally skilled crafts people and glass artists involved along with covering their overhead costs. Glass blowing and glass etching are two different and very advanced skills. If this set is something that has great emotional value to you such as it being from your mother or grandmother or such and cost is not important then you might want to go ahead, but if not then the cost might be a bit too daunting. One place I have not used but have heard of is F.W. Aldridge in the UK but I am sure there must be a couple of others. IP: Logged
agleopar Posts: 850 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 10-28-2018 04:07 PM Welcome and thank you for being so thorough in your intro! You already have more than the basics in knowledge but hopefully there is a member who might shed more acurate info on these. The only thing I can add is that these were made in production by spinning and stamping. Probably a large company that could tool up and produce a fair number. Possibly there maybe others out there? As Kimo has said a competent glass blower could reproduce the shape but I'm not sure there are those out there who could reproduce the etching... I have had glass made both here and in England but have never seen that kind of work being done today. That does not mean it is not possible and England is a good place to look. Although if places like Czechoslovakia are still producing glassware they might have the resources... Good luck! IP: Logged
FernTopiary Posts: 3 Registered: Oct 2018	posted 10-28-2018 05:24 PM Thank you, both, for the responses and suggestions. No, I do not use them regularly, but would love to be able to replace the glass. I have seen some of the same style in sherbet cups, and even cordials, but never in the water size. Given the style of needle etching, I think they might have been a collaboration with Fostoria, but I'm not sure. In fact, these same sterling bottoms were also sold much later with a different (more of a 50s style) liners. I would imagine that if Fostoria collaborated in these, they might have had a similar, all-glass model with that etching that I could, maybe, adapt. Anyway, thank you so much! IP: Logged
Kimo Posts: 1627 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 10-28-2018 10:18 PM It is hard to see much detail of the etching from your photos, but from what I do see it seems to be somewhat generic and so difficult to attribute to any particular maker. IP: Logged

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