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JinOregon

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iconnumber posted 03-05-2025 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JinOregon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I recently picked up this beautiful engraved piece. I can’t find out much about it other than the maker. It is marked but it’s very hard to see even with a 16x loupe. It appears to be hand engraved as well. Does anyone have any information about this piece? Thanks!

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JinOregon

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iconnumber posted 03-18-2025 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JinOregon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody knows anything about this?? Is it that unusual???

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June Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-18-2025 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for June Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You said you were able to find the maker. Would you like to share who that is? What type of information are you looking for? This is not necessarily a forum where you are going to get instantaneous answers.

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JinOregon

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iconnumber posted 03-21-2025 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JinOregon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by June Martin:
You said you were able to find the maker. Would you like to share who that is? What type of information are you looking for? This is not necessarily a forum where you are going to get instantaneous answers.

Hello, the maker is in the title “Ravinet d'Enfert”. I am curious about the shape, is it a jelly spoon or something else? I’m curious about the engraving, I can’t seem to find anything like it online. Could this possibly be sterling even though it’s not marked? I only ask because it’s engraved and I wouldn’t think it would be engravable if it were plated. Really any information about it would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-21-2025 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Could this possibly be sterling even though it’s not marked?

No.

French solid silver must be marked.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 03-21-2025 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a simply test that has been helpful over the years.

The "Flex Test"

Put your hands on a similarly sized and shaped piece of flatware which you know is Sterling (not silverplate). And also on a similarly sized and shaped piece of flatware which you know is silverplate.

Gently compare the flexibility of the sterling versus the silverplate. Silverplate is typically stiff and the sterling tends to have a springiness.

It is good to get familiar with doing the test with many different similarly sized items. Please note: when you get to very low grade solid silver (often found in the "third world") items made with low grade solid silver can feel stiff.

[This message has been edited by Scott Martin (edited 03-22-2025).]

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RichardT

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iconnumber posted 03-21-2025 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RichardT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this were 19th century American, I'd call this a jelly spoon or certainly some sort of serving spoon. But the French have a flattened dessert spoon which can be called a "French sauce spoon" or (per Wikipedia) a cuillère à sauce individuelle, for use in scraping the chocolate sauce or creme Anglaise off your dessert plate.

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JinOregon

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iconnumber posted 03-22-2025 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JinOregon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for the information. Fascinating how many different silverware items there are.

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