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ahwt

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My wife collects copper things and found these two tea pots recently. They are very similar in design; as both have a swing handle, a hinged flap at the end of the spout with something like a rat tail finishing off the hinge and both have the same rolled decorative finial design.

They have different maker’s marks on them, but I suspect, given the similar design, that they come from the same region of the world.

They both have a dovetailed bottom construction that seems to be typical in older pots. Maybe one of our silversmiths may know if this solves some construction problem. The coppersmith still had to bend the bottom ridge so I really do not know why it is constructed this way. They could work with smaller sheets of copper with this construction, but they would be adding another step or two in making the pot that would take time. The solder is always lighter in color and maybe is brass.

Any information anyone has on these pots would be appreciated.

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ahwt

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I did an image search and found one very similar. There the owner said that the finial represented the Swedish crown so these pots probably came from Sweden.

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agleopar

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Great kettles. Your thinking on the lapped bottoms is sort of yes, sort of no. Yes it takes time to cut the laps but it would take more time to raise the body out of one circle. Also the laps are made so that the metal overlaps and is thicker to add strength, even after the hammering that compresses the laps before the soldering.

Be sure to have them tinned if you want to use them!

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ahwt

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Thanks agleopar. My wife has used a couple of old pots, but never has used the teapots as they usually sit in front of a fireplace.
There is a copper smith working in Nashville and I have seen several at Colonial Fairs, but I don't think there really are many artisans working in copper today. Maybe I have not looked in the right places to find them.

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chicagosilver

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Just came across this post from last year. We've seen a bunch of these, and have a couple:


The larger one has the same details as ahwt's:

We have a nice copper pitcher by Chicago's Hull House with the same distinctive finial:

In her Chicago Metalsmiths book Sharon Darling identifies this pitcher as having been made "in the metal shop at Hull House, probably by a Russian immigrant from the Halsted Street neighborhood." (p. 35)

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The Russian immigrant pitcher is a really interesting form and one that I do not recall seeing before. I will look for the Chicago Silversmiths book. Thanks for posting.

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