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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2003 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I presume is some German's tooth, who else would mount a tooth in silver?

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wev
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iconnumber posted 04-20-2003 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the tooth -- the Romani wore them to ward off tooth ache and other dental evils. The older the tooth when it became, ah, available, the more potent it was thought to be.

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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2003 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate to admit I lived in Roma in the 60's, but didn't know that about teeth. I hope you appreciate that I did not say anything about being long in the tooth. I looked in my Italian books and found nothing similar. Also H is not a very initial in Italian, also I have the advantage of remembering it came on a rather nondescript later German watch chain.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 04-20-2003 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry -- not Romans, but Romani -- the gypsies of Britain and Europe.

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labarbedor

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2003 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for labarbedor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOps! Romani means Romans in Italian.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 04-23-2003 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a really neat piece.

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Arg(um)entum

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iconnumber posted 12-29-2004 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess is that it is a charivari pendant.

Charivari??

First location: think eastern i.e. Bavarian and Austrian alps.

Then think of a small silverchain carried around mid-body e.g. hanging from the belt (one source claimed it was attached to the codpiece). From the chain hangs a variety of interesting objects: coins, the front paw of a long dead favorite dog, tip of a badger tail, various teeth out of and pieces of horn from your hunting successes, etc. all set in a manner that provides a loop for easy attachement.

Originally worn by men, by the end of the 19th century they had become part of ladies' traditional (today we might say 'folkloric') dresses. They wore them around the belt. smile

There are numerous websites that sell factory made modern versions for the folk set.

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Paul Lemieux

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 07-26-2005 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A toothsome pair, but definitely not human.

The least the maker could have done is to have cleaned off the tartar. . . .

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salmoned

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iconnumber posted 07-26-2005 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salmoned     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The perfect gift for Evander Holyfield?

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 03-08-2007 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found some similar examples in a book recently. These silver-mounted teeth appear to be German hunting trophies/souvenirs, made in the 18th and 19th centuries. I think mine were originally not earrings, perhaps they were part of a brooch or some kind of watch fob. The earwires appear to be later additions.

[This message has been edited by Paul Lemieux (edited 03-08-2007).]

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Clive E Taylor

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As Swarter has said, the teeth are not human, a least not human as we know know them!
But it was quite normal in Victorian times in England to mount the teeth of dead children into memorial jewelry and wear these, presumeably only at the funeral etc. Not many have survived - happily.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 03-08-2007 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Suspect the teeth in labarbedor's charm and my earrings were taken by hunters from their quarry, mounted in silver, and kept as souvenirs of the catch.

Here is a picture from the book "Primitive and Folk Jewelry". The items shown include mounted teeth, tiger claws, lobster claws, beaver mouths, and bird talons. They are all identified as "hunting tropies" and are most likely German except for the tiger claw items which are probably Asian. The mounting on the tooth in the top right corner is very similar to the mounting of my earrings.

And here is a Victorian era gold stickpin, mounted with some kind of tooth. I have no idea what kind of animal it came from. The tooth is 11/16" long and at its thickest, it is about 3/8" thick.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-12-2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Also see: Tooth Jewelry

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 05-12-2013 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw in Atlanta this weekend several horses hooves that formed the base of candlesticks. I must admit I no desire to photograph them.

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