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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2005 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe some of the Norwegian silver pros can enlighten me about the different marks on this scentheart, which I bought in USA, where they seem to be much more common (many Norwegian immigrants) than in Norway.
The townmark of Bergen 1848 I know, the number 41 is for the exact year, but the rest is up to you.

Thank you for your help.

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2005 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the left mark is the Bergen city mark (seven pellets representing the seven hills of Bergen) and the right one - 41 - is the year. That much you know.

The "H" second from the left is the assayer's mark of Christen Hoff, chief assayer at Bergen 1821-1860.

The third and fourth marks are (in that order, I think) that of the maker and a sign of the zodiac, the latter indicating the month of assay. Unfortunately, I can't read either of them too well. Perhaps a larger photo or written description would help.

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Arg(um)entum

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2005 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The middle mark is just about unreadable in the photo but based on size and the fact that the leftmost character could be a '1', I wonder whether it could be the fineness i.e. '13 1/3' (Loth).

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 04-20-2005 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Certainly possible, Arg(um)entum. And I just remembered that after 1821(as was the case in the mid 18th century) the month was expressed as a fraction: a number over "M". I think I can make out (in the 4th mark) "6/M", for June.

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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 04-21-2005 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the unclear foto! I try a description of the 5 marks from left to right:
1.) "7 pellets" City mark of Bergen
2.) "H" for Christen Hoff,chief assayer at
Bergen 1821-1860
3.) "IB" maker Hans I. Blytt
4.) "6 over M" June
5.) "41" year 1841

Someone told me this silver hearts are called "luktevannshus" in Norway (little scentwater house).
There is an interesting book for Norwegian silvermarks:

Norsk solv: gullsmeder gjenom 600 ar
Autor: Fossberg, Jorunn, Tandberg, Sigrid Wegge ISBN: 82-496-0233-1

blakstone and Arg(um)entum, thank you very much for your help!

Sazikov2000

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