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Scotia

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2005 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scotia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

This may be my first piece of real French Silver and not Plate. It is a tablespoon, with three marks on the reverse, the first a man with a beard in a rectangular box with a number, possibly Paris 1st standard Mark 1819-1838. The next mark would appear to be that of the maker which looks like J,Andri,M. The third mark is a man's face in a circular punch facing left with a laurel wreath on his head. On the front of the spoon just above the bowl on the handle is another very rubbed mark like two diamond shapes, which not centered on stem. Does anyone know the date or maker?



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iconnumber posted 07-10-2005 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are exactly right in your 1819-1838 dating. The old man's head is the Paris mark for 1st standard (.950) silver, and the wreathed head is the Paris guarantee mark. The triangular marks are called countermarks, and are produced when the guarantee mark is stamped on an engraved anvil called a bigorne. (Do a search of this forum for "bigorne" for more information on these marks.)

I cannot find the exact maker's mark you describe, but I expect it is that of Jean-Baptise Andrieu (whose mark was "ANDRIEU" with a rose above and a star below.) He was a maker flatware in Paris, and his mark was registered in December 1830 and cancelled upon his death in July 1833. His widow continued his workshop until March 1835, but her mark reads "VEUVE ANDRIEU".

Hope this helps!

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