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hamerani Posts: 4 |
posted 09-12-2005 09:20 PM
  
On two pieces of silver which the dealer thinks may be late 18C Canadian, there are two different but similar sets of marks: (1) fake lion passant, date letter H, head of George III (?), maker's (?) mark JC; and (2) similar head, maker's mark (?) J Mo. (in cursive script), fake lion, the same JC mark again again. The pieces look to be of roughly similar date and have identical engraved armorials on the other side. Any thoughts much appreciated. IP: Logged |
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tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 09-12-2005 09:53 PM
Welcome to the forum. We really need a photo in order to help you. Why do you believe the lion passant is fake? Tom IP: Logged |
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hamerani Posts: 4 |
posted 09-13-2005 07:02 AM
I'm afraid I don't have a photo. 'Fake' because it doesn't look like a London lion -- fairly clearly a knock-off. I believe Canadian silversmiths did use marks that were intended to look like London hallmarks. IP: Logged |
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FWG Posts: 845 |
posted 09-13-2005 09:27 AM
The marks on the first are almost certainly those of Julius Cornelius, working in Halifax, Nova Scotia, 1854-1905 (born in Prussia(!) in 1825). The H is a mark often used by Halifax silversmiths; pseudo-English hallmarks in many varieties were common in English-speaking Canada, but they were not changed regularly and date letters were not used. In Nova Scotia some smiths even used a thistle mark to suggest the Scottish ties. On the second piece, the JMo script mark is probably actually J. Mc., for John McCulloch, working in Halifax from 1844 to about the early 1870s (born in Glasgow, 1821; died 1875). Did you mean to say it had the same H mark rather than the same JC? I've never seen the marks together on a piece, but I suppose it's conceivable they may have retailed each others work. Seems unlikely, though, and I've found no record of them working together. These two were considered among the finest gold- and silversmiths in the province. In 1868 McCulloch won a 1st for jewelry in native gold, and Cornelius took the 2nd and an honorable mention at the NS Industrial Exhibition. Cornelius had also won an award in 1862 for his exhibit of jewelry. IP: Logged |
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hamerani Posts: 4 |
posted 09-13-2005 12:08 PM
Thank you for the very informative reply. The second piece has the same JC, not the same H. On closer inspection, the other mark is indeed JMc. Many thanks again. IP: Logged |
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