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pbanz

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iconnumber posted 08-23-2005 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pbanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello again, I figured I may as well submitt this piece too while I am at the computer. I hope you don't mind.
Its interesting and may be fun for the members. It opens and closes with a scissor action to reveal a baby in the pouch. It also can stand by itself on the base although not well. Its a stork and has something to do with a babys needs I would think, but what?
Thank you and have fun
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Clive E Taylor

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iconnumber posted 08-23-2005 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clive E Taylor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the antique trade these are usually called "Ribbon Pullers " or "Ribbon Threaders ". This example appears from the "800" mark to be Continental silver of 800/1000 purity as oppossed to thwe 925/1000 of Sterling. I've heard some date back to the 18th century but have never seen such. Personally I'm not entirely convinced if the original purpose was entirely
ribbon or sewing related but have never seen another rational explanation.
In case the practise is unfamiliar to some readers, in England, when they asked awkward questions, little children used to be told that babies were brought by the stork about sex. Now the parents learn more from the kids !

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 08-23-2005 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The crown & crescent mark preceding the "800" quality mark indicate German manufacture, post-1888. The mark to the right of "800," which appears to be a sickle, is the maker's mark.

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2005 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I once saw one of these advertised as an umbilical cord clamp!

I believe they were used to pull a ribbon through a baby's bonnet or, alternately, to pull a ribbon through a lace handkerchief to turn it into a bonnet. This seems to me the likeliest purpose; the stork and the newborn make sense only in the context of some sort of infant's paraphernalia.

And the sickle mark is that of the manufacturer J. D. Schleissner Sohne of Hanau, Germany.

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pbanz

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iconnumber posted 08-24-2005 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pbanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking it had something to do with an umbilical cord or something a doctor used but I never did think of it as a ribbon or eyelet threader. And from Germany to boot!!!
I thank you guys for the fast and informative information. A pleasure coming here indeed.
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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 08-30-2005 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even the Russians had an instrument like that - in email clausonneé of course!

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pbanz

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iconnumber posted 08-31-2005 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pbanz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You Saz, A beautiful piece indeed. That just shows to goya the needs of babies are the same everywhere....
Have a good day
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