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suomoo

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iconnumber posted 11-03-2005 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for suomoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[26-0760]

I have recently bought a nice cruet stand
with unfamiliar hallmarks.

Could anyone tell me where it was made and how old is might be?

Many thanks.



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outwest

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iconnumber posted 11-03-2005 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the marks other than the English sterling lion (not an expert here!), but I am curious to see the cruet stand itself. Can you post a picture of it?

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doc

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iconnumber posted 11-07-2005 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the date letter is a bit worn, it would appear that it is marked for London, 1842. Any maker's mark on the piece?

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Silver Lyon

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2005 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver Lyon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are not real British hallmarks, nor are they colonial marks contemporary or nearly so with those that they set out to mimic. I fear that your cruet, if it is silver at all, is of fairly modern (within last 50 years) manufacture.

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outwest

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2005 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for outwest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So is that an afghan hound instead of a lion then. smile

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abesilverman

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iconnumber posted 11-17-2005 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abesilverman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those marks look like a 'take off' of Gorham's. The 'elephant?' for 1930, the "G" (but it's turned the wrong way, and the 'lion' which is facing the wrong way.

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 11-18-2005 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "elephant" is a man's head (crude imitation king's head) intended to be viewed the same way as the "G" - I have seen it on other 19th C. coin silver, but perhaps not in the same combination with the other two PHMs.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 11-18-2005 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A picture of the cruet stand would help us pin down a likely date for the piece. Marks by themselves are frequently inconclusive evidence of time, place and maker.

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