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Silver Lyon Posts: 363 |
posted 09-12-2006 09:41 AM
  
I can't work out where this comes from! It looks Italian and c.18 - early c.19th, is heavy and quite large (8" x 5"). Expert help would be much appreciated. There is just the one mark on the upper side in the middle of the bowl. What does anybody think? IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 09-12-2006 07:19 PM
Good instincts. The mark is known, but only that it is 18th century Italian, probably an assayer's mark of the provincial Venetian Republic. The mark should be rotated almost 90° counter-clockwise; it depicts the lion of St. Mark, facing left, its paw resting on the gospel. Hope this helps! IP: Logged |
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Silver Lyon Posts: 363 |
posted 09-13-2006 07:39 AM
Right way up. And I thought it was a bird!! It is a present for my wife, who will be thrilled that it is Venetian. Many Thanks, as usual, for your wonderful expertise P/s Can you suggest where I might find more information on this mark and other probably Venetian pieces please? IP: Logged |
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Clive E Taylor Posts: 450 |
posted 09-13-2006 09:13 AM
A possible clue to dating. In armorial sculpture the Lion of St Mark was traditionally shown with the book open if the Republic was at peace, closed if at war. Whether this applies to silver Marks (pun) I do not know, or even if it applies as late as the 18th century. IP: Logged |
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akgdc Posts: 289 |
posted 09-13-2006 08:17 PM
Of course, the Venetian lion has wings, which is why he looks like a bird. I have an 18th-century plate with a similar assayer's mark and no maker's mark. That form is unfamiliar to me ... too large to be a salt, clearly. Can anyone identify it? IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 09-13-2006 09:43 PM
The standard work on Venetian marks is the two volume I Punzoni dell'Argenteria Veneta (v.I: Venezia e Dogado; v. II: Lo Stato Veneto) by Piero Pazzi, 1992. Perhaps more definitive information could be found there. As for the use, I have noticed that French and Italian liturgical items very often have only the state mark(s), without any maker's mark. Just a thought; I can't immediately think of any such use for your bowl, and it strikes me as distinctly domestic. IP: Logged |
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