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nutmegr Posts: 58 |
posted 03-11-2010 01:42 PM
  
I bought this sugar spoon at a local estate sale a couple of months ago. With the moon and the 800, I presume it to be German, but I don't know continental silver very well. I'm guessing the Gebr. F is for Gebruder Friedlander of Berlin, but I don't know if they would be the maker or the retailer. The spoon is just over 5 1/2" long and is gilt washed. I love the monogram, even though I can't make it out! Any information would be appreciated! IP: Logged |
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nutmegr Posts: 58 |
posted 03-11-2010 01:43 PM
Here's the rest of the pictures. ----------------- IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 03-11-2010 06:09 PM
The sugar shovel (I think) is wonderful. 1860s. The monogram (posted upside down) is A M Y, Y A M, M A Y. A lovely piece, and so unlike anything American, while echoing the exact same stylistic things that go on in America--with a different accent! IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 03-11-2010 09:56 PM
Indeed, though I think it's a little later than that; the *800* and moon mark here are trademarks used by M. H. Wilkens & Söhne of Bremen in the 1870's & 1880's. They were very large flatware makers, though needless to say this is not one of their "standard" patterns. It is, however, consistent with German patterns around 1875/80 - they were kind of late getting on the aesthetic/revivalist bandwagon. And I think you're right about Gebrüder Friedländer as the retailers. Very nice! IP: Logged |
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nutmegr Posts: 58 |
posted 03-12-2010 10:26 AM
Thank you both for your thoughts. No wonder I couldn't figure out the monogram, if I was looking at it upside- down! I'm partial to interesting monograms, and I love the way this one is pierced through. I will look up more information on M. H. Wilkens & Söhne, I don't think I'd have ever figured that out on my own. Is the small mark to the left of the 800 mark a maker's mark of theirs? I had a particularly difficult time getting a picture of that, I know it's probably not clear enough to tell. I'm not usually overly fond of completely gilded silver, but I really like the finish in the "bowl" end of the piece. I like the way the silver engraving is cut though in contrast to the matte gold finish. Is there a name for that sort of matte finish? I'm thinking a butler's finish, but I don't think that's quite right. ------------------- IP: Logged |
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Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 |
posted 03-12-2010 11:50 AM
I believe a butler's finish is a soft, grey-white finish, echoing that achieved over time by careful polishing (by the butler). The matte finish that American silversmiths loved in the 1860s-80s is achieved (I think) by an acid spray--an etched surface. The contrast bright/matte aesthetic was very big, but probably faded away by the 1890s...People are free to correct me if I'm remembering wrongly. IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 03-12-2010 03:31 PM
In silverplating, this sort of finish can be achieved by cooling the tank. The temperature of the solution governs how smooth the finish is. IP: Logged |
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