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wendlekins Posts: 50 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 06-24-2006 09:52 AM [26-1111] Please can someone help identify the marks on this gilt lined silver cup. I just cant find it myself. I would love to know which country it comes from and how old it is. It was in a box of Rubbish at a local auction. I wonder if it might be Russian? Many thanks Wendy IP: Logged
venus Posts: 282 Registered: Jul 2005	posted 06-25-2006 03:06 PM Hard to make out the marks Wendy. To my eyes the large mark looks like a little elf type man and the smaller a squirrel. Now I would imagine that is far from what they really are. lol. Can you discribe what they really look like? Interesting tho IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 06-25-2006 03:45 PM IP: Logged
wendlekins Posts: 50 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 06-25-2006 05:00 PM Thanks for your help Scott. These were very hard to photo I'm afraid. The large one looks like either an old fashioned water pump or a man kneeling down with a hat and long train coming off it !!!! The small one does look a bit like a squirrel or a fox. Well I'm truly foxed anyway. IP: Logged
wendlekins Posts: 50 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 06-25-2006 05:02 PM Thank you Venus, I thought I could work out its Origin from the distinctive handle but having trawled through hundreds of silver cups on the internet I'm none the wiser. It gives me the feel that it might be Eastern European??? Best wishes Wendy IP: Logged
wendlekins Posts: 50 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 06-25-2006 05:07 PM Hopefully a better picture IP: Logged
Richard Kurtzman Moderator Posts: 768 Registered: Aug 2000	posted 06-25-2006 05:56 PM wendlekins, It's very hard to tell from your photo, but if you rotate the picture it looks to be a Portuguese mark. IP: Logged
Richard Kurtzman Moderator Posts: 768 Registered: Aug 2000	posted 06-25-2006 06:07 PM 833 silver, Oporto, Post January 1, 1938. IP: Logged
wendlekins Posts: 50 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 06-25-2006 07:31 PM Many thanks Richard. I have looked on the internet and seen the larger mark now as Portuguese. Because it is so plain I had wrongly thought it was from an earlier in date. Many thanks for helping me. Best wishes Wendy IP: Logged
blakstone Posts: 493 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 06-25-2006 08:56 PM I can add that the eagle’s head here was in use until 31 Dec 1984. Also, the maker’s mark – “I” with a water pump – is that of Isidro Pinto Pereira of Porto, registered in 1931 and used successively by: Isidro Pinto Pereira 1931-1936 Isidro Pinto Pereira & Irmão [Brother] 1936-1942 Isidro Pinto Pereira 1942-1965 Viúva de [Widow of] Isidro Pinto Pereira 1965-1975 Isidro Pinto Pereira Herdeiros [Successors] 1975-1986 Isidro Pinto Pereira, Herdeiros, Lda. [Successors, Ltd.] 1986- Hope this helps! IP: Logged
wendlekins Posts: 50 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 06-26-2006 04:02 AM Wow that's amazing to be able to pin it down to an actual silversmith. Many thanks to you Blakstone, Venus and Richard for your time and great help. Best wishes Wendy IP: Logged

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