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Michael 2 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-03-2007 06:52 AM
  
Hi All, This is my first time on the forum so a short introduction may be appropriate (of course it may not be appropriate depending on the etiquette of the forum!). I live in East London South Africa which is a coastal town situated between Cape Town And Durban. I have been collecting antiques for about 18 years, mainly porcelain, glass and some silver (card cases,sugar tongs, vesta cases, caddy spoons etc). I have recently acquired some Portuguese silver "pin trays", the marks on theses are too small and indistinct to photograph (to be more honest, I have not yet figured out how to send photos to the Forum!) so I hope my description of the marks will enable someone to help me. The one piece is stamped with the bald head of a man, next to this is another totally illegible mark.The other marks are, an L with a crown above it (which I believe stands for Lisbon) and finally it has the initials AIF stamped on it. The other two pieces have the same marks i.e., a seated Boar and next to this is an oblong stamp with the letter C in the middle of it,on either side of the C in the oblong is a diamond (lozenge). I have tried searching on the Forum and on the internet but with no success. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 01-03-2007 12:27 PM
Michael, Welcome to the forum. The crowned "L" does indeed signify Lisbon. The style of the mark and shape of the punch indicate its date. The boar's head is a finesse mark indicating silver content. It should be preceded or underscored by a Roman numeral I or II for .916 or .833 silver respectively. Again, the shape of the punch indicates date and place. The bald headed man used by itself indicates "silverwar of artistic or archeological value" (Tardy, "International Hallmarks on Silver"). The punch shape indicates the city in which the piece was made (or at least assayed). The other marks may be those of the maker. As you can tell from my tentative comments, photos are a must since style, punch shape and other factors allow us to better identify the piece. Plus we would all like to see these items! The forum contains lots of good info on posting photos, so give it a shot. Also, we ask new members to tell us a bit more about their interest in silver. Is this a one-time acquisition or are you starting a collection. Tom PS I have very fond memories of visiting Capetown and the surruounding area in December 1999. Quite a treat coming from cold, windy Chicago. IP: Logged |
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Michael 2 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-03-2007 02:35 PM
Thanks for the welcome and the information. I realize that photos are useful and will try and post some within the next few days.The three pieces of Portuguese silver are just a once off(three off!). I came across in a local antique shop.As I mentioned I collect a wide variety of antiques ranging from 18C porcelain to Victorian writing slopes to murano glass . I have a particular interest in art deco and art nouveau lamps and clocks. As far as silver is concerned I do not specialize in any thing in particular but if I find an interesting piece at an affordable price then I can't resist! As well as the items I mentioned in my first posting I also have a collection of silver top perfume bottles and a few wine labels. In addition I have some very nice "one off" eg. pr rococo style candle sticks by Thomas Blagden (1820),a beautiful water ewer with an angel on the handle (Edinburgh 1877) I do not know the maker so when I have figured out how I will post a photo and ask for some help to identify the maker.The only piece of American silver I have is a repousse tea caddy by A Jacobi Baltimore. I am sorry I seem to be rattling on a bit off of the subject! Once again thanks for your help. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 01-03-2007 10:05 PM
"AIF" in Lisbon sounds like it might be Antonio Joaquim de Freitas, working 1805 - ca. 1820, and "C" with two diamonds could be Constantino Duarte Cordoso, working in Porto 1891-1914. But these are just guesses based on your descriptions; as tmockait suggests, photos would be a big, big help. IP: Logged |
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Michael 2 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-05-2007 03:01 AM
Thanks for the information Blakstone.I hope I will be able to post some photographs over the weekend. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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