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karenp
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iconnumber posted 08-09-2004 10:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

I just bought 2 ladles and they have marks on them that I can't find anywhere. Can anyone help please?

The first has a circle with the initials R & D at each side, at the top there I think a fleur dr lis & at the bottom the I think the number 14 or it could be IS?. After that in a separate stamp are the words RAVINE DENP??? (I can't make out the rest of the letters).

The second has what looks like a head inside the first square stamp, then the letters PD??RDOLZ.

Any comments or help would be appreciated.
Many thanks,
Karen

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kayvee
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iconnumber posted 08-09-2004 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello -
You have given some tantalizing clues, but much more info is needed. I suggest you clean out the marks and get some magnification going so that you can really see them well. The questions I have so far are: is the lady's head on the second ladle in an octagonal shield (a rectangle with clipped corners) or in a barrel shaped shield (a rectangle with two rounded sides)? Which direction is her head facing? Are there other marks in the shield (letters or numbers)? Depending on your answers, the second ladle might have a French silver standard Minerva's head mark plus a maker's mark. On the first ladle, could the fleur de lys be a clover? I'm ready to go way, way out on a limb and suggest the first ladle might be by the French maker Ravinet Denfert and that it is silver plated. Pictures would be helpful to see if the style of your finds corresponds to French work.

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iconnumber posted 08-10-2004 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for karenp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kay

Well I actually bought them in France, its where I live so the name is great to hear. On the second I really can't tell if it actually is a head as its very worn & no its just in a square.
I have managed to see the lettering on a set of 2 spoons I bought at the same place, am trying to get a good enough pic to post of them all.

Thanks,
Kay

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iconnumber posted 08-10-2004 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very welcome. Living in France as you do, there are several ways you could find more about your ladles. As a first suggestion, most auction firms have free verbal appraisals, so an auction firm might be worth checking out if you can bring the objects along. If you purchased from a licensed dealer, they are required by law to give you full information at time of purchase.

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